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Your voting record: 2008 and 2012

Your presidential vote, 2008 and 2012

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Dragonfly said:
I have NEVER voted for a stinking republican or a stinking democrat in any presidential election since I started voting in the early 80's.

They are all TRASH - and none have been worthy of my vote.
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What a special snowflake you are.
 
CanadaJohn said:
What was the trauma in your life that caused you to go insane in 2000? :2razz:
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The impeachment of the President I didn't vote for disgusted me, but I was still partial to GWB, until I learned too much about him. That, and although I did not vote for Clinton, I thought he did a good job, so why not Gore. I think I was very, very much correct on that call.
 
CaptinSarcastic said:
I'll go further...

1980 Reagan
1984 Reagan
1988 Bush
1992 Bush
1996 Dole
2000 Gore
2004 Kerry
2008 Obama
2012 Obama

I didn't leave the GOP, they left me
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So we have to assume some time between 1996 and 2000 drugs fried your brain.

1972 Nixon.

1976 Ford.

1980 Presidential primary, Reagan.
1980 Reagan.

1984 Presidential primary, Reagan.
1984 Reagan.

1988 Presidential primary, G.H. Bush.
1988 G.H. Bush

1992 Presidential primary, Pat Buchanan
1992 G.H. Bush

1996 Presidential primary, Pat Buchanan.
1996 Dole.

2000 Presidential primary, Pat Buchanan.
2000 G.W. Bush.

2004 Presidential primary, (had no other choice on my ballot, it was G.W. Bush.) Definitely wasn't going to cast my vote for someone who backed stabbed me and millions of other American troops who were on the battlefields of Vietnam.
2004 G.W. Bush.

2008 Presidential primary, Duncan Hunter.
2008 McCain / Sarah Palin.

2012 Presidential primary, Newt Gingrich.
2012 Romney.
 
APACHERAT said:
So we have to assume some time between 1996 and 2000 drugs fried your brain.
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You would do better to assume that folks like you took over the party and made it into a revolting thing that actively worked to harm the country.
 
CaptinSarcastic said:
You would do better to assume that folks like you took over the party and made it into a revolting thing that actively worked to harm the country.
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Actually the conservative base lost control of the GOP back around 1996 or was it in 1998 ?

The GOP started moving to the left when many liberals with in the Democrat Party fled that party and came under the GOP tent during the 1970's when the radical left gained control of the Democrat Party. Those liberals were the beginning of the neoconservative movement.

By the mid and late 1980's the Democrat Party had moved so far to the radical left, that even the Reagan Democrats started to flee the Democrat Party. Many became independent swing voters.
 
APACHERAT said:
Actually the conservative base lost control of the GOP back around 1996 or was it in 1998 ?

The GOP started moving to the left when many liberals with in the Democrat Party fled that party and came under the GOP tent during the 1970's when the radical left gained control of the Democrat Party. Those liberals were the beginning of the neoconservative movement.

By the mid and late 1980's the Democrat Party had moved so far to the radical left, that even the Reagan Democrats started to flee the Democrat Party. Many became independent swing voters.
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Wow, that statement is like a sci-fi alternate history novel.

Are we still using dirigibles in your fantasy world?
 
ChezC3 said:
Obama to my everlasting shame in 08 and Gary Johnson in 12.

First time for both Democratic and Libertarian that I voted those parties in a National election

Though my vote for Obama was more a vote against McCain.

GJ was for GJ
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Same. Exact same on all accounts. I kinda halfass believed Obama might possibly be smarter when it came to things like marijuana or pointlessly starting new wars, but then he got elected and I knew I would regret voting for him. But I can always find comfort in the fact that I was voting against McCain and the Republicans for their treatment of Ron Paul. After his 2012 campaign I give up on the political system. I don't believe in it anymore, I think it's fake. And I think you have to be fake in order to have a shot. That's why I'm not excited about Rand Paul. The closer he gets to victory the faker he'll have to be, just like Obama.
 
CaptinSarcastic said:
The impeachment of the President I didn't vote for disgusted me, but I was still partial to GWB, until I learned too much about him. That, and although I did not vote for Clinton, I thought he did a good job, so why not Gore. I think I was very, very much correct on that call.
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The election of Gore in 2000 would not have stopped 9/11 and a Gore Presidency would have seen so much global warming/enviromental protection initiatives that your country and perhaps the world would have been in permanent recession and perhaps double digit inflation as many of the necessities of life as we know it became too expensive to consume.

Better to let Gore as a private citizen scam $10s of millions from the naive and impressionable than to have him bankrupt the economy as a whole.

As for Clinton's impeachment, I don't disagree - as for GWB, can't imagine what you "learned" about him that would have made him less viable than Gore.
 
In '08 I voted for McCain. In '12 I didn't vote. I almost voted Romney, but I just couldn't force myself to do so.

I've voted for the Republican candidate in every Presidential election except my first (voted Perot) and the last (didn't vote).
 
Gipper said:
In '08 I voted for McCain. In '12 I didn't vote. I almost voted Romney, but I just couldn't force myself to do so.

I've voted for the Republican candidate in every Presidential election except my first (voted Perot) and the last (didn't vote).
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Four million white voters didn't vote in 2012 who voted in 2008.

It was Perot voters who put Clinton in the White House back in 92. I remember those Perot voters back then, they were young first time voters who were highly motivated. What a let down, you were able to hear that sucking sound that Perot was always referring to in reference to NAFTA as soon as Clinton moved in to the White House. You still can hear that sucking sound.

Remember Obama's lie in 2008 that he was going to revisit NAFTA if he became POTUS ? A week later he was caught telling the PM of Canada that he was lying to the American voters to pick up a few million votes.
 
APACHERAT said:
Four million white voters didn't vote in 2012 who voted in 2008.

It was Perot voters who put Clinton in the White House back in 92. I remember those Perot voters back then, they were young first time voters who were highly motivated. What a let down, you were able to hear that sucking sound that Perot was always referring to in reference to NAFTA as soon as Clinton moved in to the White House. You still can hear that sucking sound.

Remember Obama's lie in 2008 that he was going to revisit NAFTA if he became POTUS ? A week later he was caught telling the PM of Canada that he was lying to the American voters to pick up a few million votes.
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The main reason I voted for Perot was that "large sucking sound to the South" argument he made. He was absolutely right. I think many who were well versed in economics at the time (I wasn't there yet, I was just starting my post-HS education) saw that he was obviously correct.

Of course, Clinton ended up being a damn good president anyway, even if I disagreed with NAFTA at the time. After all, I'm a huge Reagan fan, and I can't exactly bitch about protectionism since Reagan was probably the godfather of protectionism.
 
CaptinSarcastic said:
Wow, that statement is like a sci-fi alternate history novel.

Are we still using dirigibles in your fantasy world?
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If you weren't a mature and knowledgeable adult by the late 60's or the early 70's it may sound like sci-fi to you.

In 1960 many of European newspapers and governments called JFK a "reactionary." Nixon was viewed being politically left of JFK. JFK's political ideology was more aligned with the liberal Democrats who became part of the neoconservative movement during the 1970's. It was the radical left known as the "New Left" who infiltrated the Democrat Party in the early 70's and hid behind the label of calling themselves "liberals." while they took the Democrat Party way over to the left.
 
Kennedy was probably the last respectable Democrat this country had. LBJ wasn't too bad (at least by today's standards), but you're right that the Democratic party was mostly hijacked by baked losers around the early 70s.

I think the tipping point was Carter's election success in '76. It gave a sense of legitimacy for the crackpots for decades to come.
 
APACHERAT said:
If you weren't a mature and knowledgeable adult by the late 60's or the early 70's it may sound like sci-fi to you.

In 1960 many of European newspapers and governments called JFK a "reactionary." Nixon was viewed being politically left of JFK. JFK's political ideology was more aligned with the liberal Democrats who became part of the neoconservative movement during the 1970's. It was the radical left known as the "New Left" who infiltrated the Democrat Party in the early 70's and hid behind the label of calling themselves "liberals." while they took the Democrat Party way over to the left.
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I was politically involved in 1976, and this country has moved FAR to the right since that time, both Democrats and Republicans.

I could list pages of evidence, but simply put, people who used to be considered right are now considered leftists by the party of the right, and our center right President is called a Communist when his actions are less left that Ronald Reagan.

It is truly amazing when people suggest America has moved left in any way, shape, or form.
 
CaptinSarcastic said:
I was politically involved in 1976, and this country has moved FAR to the right since that time, both Democrats and Republicans.

I could list pages of evidence, but simply put, people who used to be considered right are now considered leftists by the party of the right, and our center right President is called a Communist when his actions are less left that Ronald Reagan.

It is truly amazing when people suggest America has moved left in any way, shape, or form.
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It's obvious that you have moved further to the left over the years.

If the GOP has moved further to the right, why isn't the GOP full of reactionaries ? Reactionaries are extreme right wing.

What I find interesting, I've only been participating on the DP for less than six months and I only seen a few who have used the term "reactionary" and properly used the term. Basically there aren't that many reactionaries around in America today.

As for Obama, he in his own words have said he was an internationalst and inside every internationalist there's a socialist who wants to get out. Deep down, Obama is an internationalist socialist.
 
APACHERAT said:
It's obvious that you have moved further to the left over the years.

If the GOP has moved further to the right, why isn't the GOP full of reactionaries ? Reactionaries are extreme right wing.

What I find interesting, I've only been participating on the DP for less than six months and I only seen a few who have used the term "reactionary" and properly used the term. Basically there aren't that many reactionaries around in America today.

As for Obama, he in his own words have said he was an internationalst and inside every internationalist there's a socialist who wants to get out. Deep down, Obama is an internationalist socialist.
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Obama an "internationalist socialist?" Really? Wow, you guys are scary ... I picture you in a poorly lit basement somewhere in the middle of nowhere, typing away, talking to yourself ... am I close? :beam:
 
2010 was the first election I ever voted in and was also our polling location election judge for the Demo primary (not a presidential year of course).
In 2012 I voted for Romney. While I am totally dissatisfied with Obama, I am glad he won because of the far religious rightwing and Catholic takeover of the Republican Party in many Republican states now pursuing extreme anti-legal abortion legislation, plus I'd like to see more push for gay civil rights equality from the Democrats - thus it is Democrats are the less of two great evils to pick from.
 
CaptinSarcastic said:
I'll go further...

1980 Reagan
1984 Reagan
1988 Bush
1992 Bush
1996 Dole
2000 Gore
2004 Kerry
2008 Obama
2012 Obama

I didn't leave the GOP, they left me
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mine :

1992 : Perot
1996 : was in college and didn't care enough to vote. i consider this a poor decision.
2000 : Bush
2004 : Badnarik
2008 : Obama
2012 : Obama

i'm not a huge Obama fan. the fact that the patriot act bull**** is still in place pisses me off, as do a whole slew of other things. i think he should have let health care reform tank without a public option instead of getting behind the POS PPACA gift to insurance companies. however, had McCain won, we'd still be deep in Iraq and who knows what else. in 2012, nobody liked Romney, even his supporters. as for the economy, i think the right's full on assault on him is like bitching at captain Sully because the plane landed in the Hudson instead of in North Carolina.
 
2008: Voted against the Republicans

2012: Voted against the Democrats

I never actually vote for anyone anymore, there is nobody in any party worth supporting.
 
APACHERAT said:
It's obvious that you have moved further to the left over the years.

If the GOP has moved further to the right, why isn't the GOP full of reactionaries ? Reactionaries are extreme right wing.

What I find interesting, I've only been participating on the DP for less than six months and I only seen a few who have used the term "reactionary" and properly used the term. Basically there aren't that many reactionaries around in America today.

As for Obama, he in his own words have said he was an internationalst and inside every internationalist there's a socialist who wants to get out. Deep down, Obama is an internationalist socialist.
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Here is a link to the 1956 GOP party platform. Read it and let me know if you still think you can say the country has moved anything but hard to the right, I'll also post a few highlights from the platform.

Republican Party Platforms: Republican Party Platform of 1956

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