View Poll Results: Your presidential vote, 2008 and 2012

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  • 2008: Obama

    30 40.54%
  • 2008: McCain

    18 24.32%
  • 2008: Third party/did not vote

    23 31.08%
  • 2012: Obama

    24 32.43%
  • 2012: Romney

    24 32.43%
  • 2012: Third party/did not vote

    25 33.78%
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Thread: Your voting record: 2008 and 2012

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    Re: Your voting record: 2008 and 2012

    2008 - Chuck Baldwin of The Constitution Party.
    2012 - I wrote in my own name on the ballot.

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    Re: Your voting record: 2008 and 2012

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptinSarcastic View Post
    You think the rich don't want to pay more because of how it might affect others? Seriously?
    you only encourage more takers when so many people want more and don't have to pay for it



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    Re: Your voting record: 2008 and 2012

    2004-Bush
    2008- Obama
    2012- Obama. Wasn't that excited, but if I didn't I was just ultimately voting against my own interest.
    "Human kindness has never weakened the stamina or softened the fiber of a free people. A nation does not have to be cruel to be tough."
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    Re: Your voting record: 2008 and 2012

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    remind me how that worked out. HE called for bans while campaigning
    Sorry, he pretty much avoided the gun issue. When and where did he call for bans? You continually state things as fact and rarely back up your statements. Show me a link or back off such statements.

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    Re: Your voting record: 2008 and 2012

    Quote Originally Posted by Threegoofs View Post
    Sure. Like the EPA. Or the FDA.

    Because who needs an environment or safe drugs and food when you can use dollar bills for both face masks, nutrition and winter heat.
    You believe in fairy tales, that's the difference between you and me. You believe the government is "protecting" you from the corporations, rather than working directly for them.

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    Re: Your voting record: 2008 and 2012

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptinSarcastic View Post
    No, my big problem is an understanding of history and economics and a concern for the sustainability of his country arguing with people who have one dimensional ideas of how it all works.

    Conservatives have the best bumper stickers, but not much behind them.
    Anyone who subscribes to a left/right worldview is uninformed.

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    Re: Your voting record: 2008 and 2012

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    you only encourage more takers when so many people want more and don't have to pay for it
    I understand that is your point of view.

    It is, however, irrelevant to my point that great wealth has been used to buy policy that increases wealth concentration and that greater wealth is being used to continue pushing for more.

    I know it is a conservative meme that we have become a nation of takers, but let me ask you, back in the 40's, 50's, and 60's, when the top tax rates were in the 90 percent range, were we a nation of takers?

    I submit that the data conservatives use ignores the fact that because conservative policies have been effective, Americans at the very top have MUCH more and the bottom 90% has less, so when you look at tax revenue distribution it looks like the top has a larger burden, but since we know, empirically that tax rates at the top are historically low, something else must be at work, and that something is wealth and income concentration.

    If you have policies that depress income for the bottom 90%, and you have social programs that kick in for people at certain poverty level incomes, it is ironic that people who support the wage depressing policies would complain about the wage depressed folks when their wages are depressed to poverty levels such that they are eligible for the social programs. And worse, blame the social programs for their economic circumstances.

    When I look around, I see so many full grown, middle aged adults working for less than I earned when I was a part time worker in college 30 years ago. I would suggest that you reconsider your position of blaming Americans and think about who made the policies that have brought us here. It's not necessarily an R v D problem, Democrats have been bought by the same unlimited lobbyists that bought Republicans, the biggest difference is that Republicans were ideologically inclined to support these policies before the cash started pouring in.
    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    I do not believe any amount of people committing suicide with firearms justifies requiring firearm sellers to preach to customers about suicide regardless if it would or wouldn't save those who commit suicide.

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    Re: Your voting record: 2008 and 2012

    Quote Originally Posted by Quik View Post
    Anyone who subscribes to a left/right worldview is uninformed.
    That was rude.

    One doesn't need to subscribe to a right/left worldview to recognize the choices that Americans are limited to.

    Anyone who mistakenly defines another person's worldview based on a few words in a post is a pompous narcissist.
    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    I do not believe any amount of people committing suicide with firearms justifies requiring firearm sellers to preach to customers about suicide regardless if it would or wouldn't save those who commit suicide.

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    Re: Your voting record: 2008 and 2012

    Quote Originally Posted by Quik View Post
    You believe in fairy tales, that's the difference between you and me. You believe the government is "protecting" you from the corporations, rather than working directly for them.
    I believe you are correct as to who is protecting whom, but I also believe this is a phenomenon that has come to define our system in the last 30 years, roughly coincidental with the decision that money is speech and the opening of the legal bribery scheme that resides on K Street in DC.
    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    I do not believe any amount of people committing suicide with firearms justifies requiring firearm sellers to preach to customers about suicide regardless if it would or wouldn't save those who commit suicide.

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    Re: Your voting record: 2008 and 2012

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptinSarcastic View Post
    I believe you are correct as to who is protecting whom, but I also believe this is a phenomenon that has come to define our system in the last 30 years, roughly coincidental with the decision that money is speech and the opening of the legal bribery scheme that resides on K Street in DC.
    LOL, Washington has been owned by Wall Street long before that. Look at the creation of the federal reserve as an example. By big business, for big business.

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