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Thread: Eat well or Procreate?

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    Eat well or Procreate?

    People keep saying the population growth is slowing and that the current trend says it will level off then decline. But resources like food, water and energy are being strained and we will continue to need renewable sources in the future.

    It seems like one is possibly coming up for food. NASA awards grant for 3-D food printer; could it end world hunger?

    NASA has given a six-month grant to a company developing what could be the world’s first 3-D food printer. And the project’s developer, reports Quartz, an online digital news site, believes the invention could be used to end world hunger.

    Quartz explains that the printer is the brainchild of mechanical engineer Anjan Contractor. Being developed by Contractor’s company, Systems & Materials Research Corp., it will use proteins, carbohydrates and sugars to create edible food products.

    Contractor says one of his primary motivations is a belief that food will become exponentially more expensive in the near future. The average consumer, he told Quartz, will need a more economically viable option.

    Some alternative food source options that may be used with the printer include algae, duckweed, grass, lupine seeds, beet leaves and even insects, according to TNO Research, which is working with Contractor on the project.

    “I think, and many economists think, that current food systems can’t supply 12 billion people sufficiently,” said Contractor. “So we eventually have to change our perception of what we see as food.”

    Here's my question should we allow the population to grow to this point where we have to eat purely processed food made of bugs and byproduct stuff? We've already got "pink slime" and "soy grits" as meat fillers. Does that really sound like quantity of people, over quality of living is desirable?
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    Re: Eat well or Procreate?

    Quote Originally Posted by grip View Post
    Here's my question should we allow the population to grow to this point where we have to eat purely processed food made of bugs and byproduct stuff? We've already got "pink slime" and "soy grits" as meat fillers. Does that really sound like quantity of people, over quality of living is desirable?
    Every year, 15 million children starve to death. The World Health Organization estimates that 1/3 of the world's population is starving. One out of every eight children under the age of 12 -- in the United States -- goes to bed hungry every night. "It is estimated that some 800 million people in the world suffer from hunger and malnutrition, about 100 times as many as those who actually die from it each year."

    I'd say we've already reached critical mass. Wouldn't you?

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    Re: Eat well or Procreate?

    Quote Originally Posted by grip View Post
    People keep saying the population growth is slowing and that the current trend says it will level off then decline. But resources like food, water and energy are being strained and we will continue to need renewable sources in the future.

    It seems like one is possibly coming up for food. NASA awards grant for 3-D food printer; could it end world hunger?

    Here's my question should we allow the population to grow to this point where we have to eat purely processed food made of bugs and byproduct stuff? We've already got "pink slime" and "soy grits" as meat fillers. Does that really sound like quantity of people, over quality of living is desirable?
    Procreation is for the survival of the species. If our population is such that natural resources are strained then clearly survival of the species is not a concern. Procreation should only be an issue when 1)a near extinction event occurs or 2)when/if colonization of other worlds begins.

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    Re: Eat well or Procreate?

    As anyone who's studied elementary biology should know, nature has certain rules. If our population gets to the point where we're starving then the people that don't starve will either adapt to the new environment, less food, or they will die. Adapting can take many forms but that's the basics. The ones that are left standing afterward will be more adapted to an environment of less food, or they'll be stronger than the previous generations having procured limited resources for themselves and their progeny at the expense of those who died. Is it harsh and brutal? Yep! Take a look at a tornado or a flood, that's the way nature is.
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    Re: Eat well or Procreate?

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    Every year, 15 million children starve to death. The World Health Organization estimates that 1/3 of the world's population is starving. One out of every eight children under the age of 12 -- in the United States -- goes to bed hungry every night. "It is estimated that some 800 million people in the world suffer from hunger and malnutrition, about 100 times as many as those who actually die from it each year."

    I'd say we've already reached critical mass. Wouldn't you?

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    No, not even close.

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    Re: Eat well or Procreate?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fisher View Post
    No, not even close.
    Untrue.

    Read up on phosphorus, as just one example.

    Peak phosphorus - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    The depletion of phosphorus is very relevant to the world's food production issues. Phosphorus is a major component in fertilizer, without which fertilizer will be rendered useless. Without fertilizer, two thirds of the worlds population will starve because the Earth cannot support our demands for food.

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    Re: Eat well or Procreate?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    Untrue.

    Read up on phosphorus, as just one example.

    Peak phosphorus - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    I am aware of the 75-200 year phosphorous supply issue. Man lived without mining it, and will survive not having a plentiful commercial supply. It is more of an issue for ADM than it is for somebody who is not a producer. People will have to grow their own food organically--how shocking. Critical mass will be around 20 Billion people.

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    Re: Eat well or Procreate?

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    Every year, 15 million children starve to death. The World Health Organization estimates that 1/3 of the world's population is starving. One out of every eight children under the age of 12 -- in the United States -- goes to bed hungry every night. "It is estimated that some 800 million people in the world suffer from hunger and malnutrition, about 100 times as many as those who actually die from it each year."

    I'd say we've already reached critical mass. Wouldn't you?

    The world hunger problem: Facts, figures and statistics
    The problem is not lack of food or resources it is almost always a facet of poverty, closed markets, and distribution problems. We do not have an over-population problem, and our capacity to exploit the planet and its resources is increasing not decreasing. As we look towards looming and developing technologies it isn't unreasonable to think we are in for another great production boom.

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    Re: Eat well or Procreate?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    Untrue.

    Read up on phosphorus, as just one example.

    Peak phosphorus - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    That's interesting...I wonder if there might be a way to recover phosphorus from human sewage?
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    Re: Eat well or Procreate?

    Soylent Green....it's what's for dinner. yum
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