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Thread: Eat well or Procreate?

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    Re: Eat well or Procreate?

    Quote Originally Posted by Neomalthusian View Post
    Well, no, not in theory anyway. There may be some idealistic underpinnings to the first position (central environmental and energy sustainability planning is politically unpopular because it's not pro-growth enough), and the latter might be a correlation/causation error.
    It's a mighty common correlation. Is there an exception?

    Political popularity of various policies are another discussion altogether.

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    Re: Eat well or Procreate?

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    Every year, 15 million children starve to death. The World Health Organization estimates that 1/3 of the world's population is starving. One out of every eight children under the age of 12 -- in the United States -- goes to bed hungry every night. "It is estimated that some 800 million people in the world suffer from hunger and malnutrition, about 100 times as many as those who actually die from it each year."

    I'd say we've already reached critical mass. Wouldn't you?

    The world hunger problem: Facts, figures and statistics
    The stat, as I understand it, is 50k children per day due to lack of sufficient food and water. Now, regarding the US, we have a different context. With a 50% obesity rate, how many could be fed on the excess consumed by others? In this context, the problem is not a lack of food but decent parents.

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    Re: Eat well or Procreate?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    It's a mighty common correlation. Is there an exception?
    I agree it's common, and empirically shown. What I might dispute is that if we therefore somehow cause people all over the world to be educated and financially stable, that realistically solves any overpopulation issue.

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    Re: Eat well or Procreate?

    Quote Originally Posted by Neomalthusian View Post
    I agree it's common, and empirically shown. What I might dispute is that if we therefore somehow cause people all over the world to be educated and financially stable, that realistically solves any overpopulation issue.
    I don't believe there are silver bullets to large, complex problems, and would never suggest a solution as such. However, education and financial stability are two noble solutions, as opposed to the baby-catapulting idea which I just can't support.

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    Re: Eat well or Procreate?

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    The stat, as I understand it, is 50k children per day due to lack of sufficient food and water. Now, regarding the US, we have a different context. With a 50% obesity rate, how many could be fed on the excess consumed by others? In this context, the problem is not a lack of food but decent parents.
    In our country, I rather agree with you. Children with attentive, caring parents shouldn't be going to bed hungry. Too many safety nets in place. In the world context, it's poverty and lack of education....read Africa and India here.
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    Re: Eat well or Procreate?

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    In our country, I rather agree with you. Children with attentive, caring parents shouldn't be going to bed hungry. Too many safety nets in place. In the world context, it's poverty and lack of education....read Africa and India here.
    Perhaps American children are poorly behaved and often sent to bed without supper.

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    Re: Eat well or Procreate?

    Quote Originally Posted by grip View Post
    People keep saying the population growth is slowing and that the current trend says it will level off then decline. But resources like food, water and energy are being strained and we will continue to need renewable sources in the future.

    It seems like one is possibly coming up for food. NASA awards grant for 3-D food printer; could it end world hunger?




    Here's my question should we allow the population to grow to this point where we have to eat purely processed food made of bugs and byproduct stuff? We've already got "pink slime" and "soy grits" as meat fillers. Does that really sound like quantity of people, over quality of living is desirable?
    Don't knock bugs, they can have a lot of nutritional value.

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    Re: Eat well or Procreate?

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Incognito View Post
    Don't knock bugs, they can have a lot of nutritional value.
    Good you can have my share.
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    Re: Eat well or Procreate?

    I say eat well, AND procreate. That's what we're doing.

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    Re: Eat well or Procreate?

    Quote Originally Posted by grip View Post
    Good you can have my share.
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