View Poll Results: Legality of Guns vs Drugs

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  • Generally speaking, guns should be legal but drugs shouldn't

    6 16.22%
  • Generally speaking, drugs should be legal but guns shouldn't

    4 10.81%
  • Both should be legal

    25 67.57%
  • Both should be illegal

    0 0%
  • Both should require a prescription/licence

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    Re: Guns vs Drugs

    My thinking doesn't really fit an option precisely:

    Both should be available but managed/policed in various ways.

    With drugs this probably means FDA oversight, licensed sellers (a la cigarettes and booze) and age restrictions for purchase.

    For guns, this means waiting periods and background checks to weed out the crazies and convicted felons.

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    Re: Guns vs Drugs

    Quote Originally Posted by HumanBeing View Post
    It's my view that there are strong similarities between guns and drugs, and the way they should be handled in society. They can be used to kill, and they can be used to save lives. They can help people or hurt people depending on who uses them and their motive for doing so, and can generally be accessed by those determined to obtain them whether they are legal or not.

    Due to those views, I think you have to either be in favor of both being legal or illegal if you want to be consistent with your beliefs. This puts me in an awkward position when it comes to American politics, because it seems that (generally speaking) the left favors drugs but not guns, and the right favors guns but not drugs.

    I didn't include the option of "some but not all drugs/guns" in the poll because I think that is a separate discussion in itself. That's why I used the term "generally speaking" in the polling options.

    I made the poll to see how people actually feel about it, and would be especially interested to hear from people who support the legality of one but not the other and your reasons.

    I'd also be interested to hear people's thoughts on how someone with those views would be accepted into American society, and whether this issue in itself would doom me to a life of isolation if I were to live there.


    I tend to favor very permissive laws in terms of both. My reasoning on drugs is similar to the historical realities of Prohibition in the 1920s: people will get what they want, and making it illegal just empowers the gangs and dealers and makes it all more unsafe.

    There is a fundamental difference here though: the right to keep and bear arms is an enumerated right in the Constitution, second in the Bill of Rights.

    The right to decide for youself what substances to put into your body is more of an IMPLIED right. That doesn't make it NOT a Constitutional issue (in the 1920s they were honest enough to admit the Fedgov lacked the authority to ban substances nationwide and passed an AMENDMENT to give themselves that authority... then repealed it when it worked out very badly...), just that guns are more solidly a BoR/Constitution-GUARANTEED right that ought not be infringed to any great degree.

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    Re: Guns vs Drugs

    To me, if no one else, its obvious that either should be legal for most people, but NOT all..
    Some, for reasons that may not be overt, cannot handle guns and/or drugs..
    The reasons are mental deficiencies, either minor in nature or major (criminal).
    The generalized statement that cons favor guns, but not drugs......is not really true...Drug addiction can affect both liberal and conservative, and libertarian, or apolitical...
    The problem is extremism...

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    Re: Guns vs Drugs

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    The ownership of both should be legal. The use of both should be legal. The abuse of both should be illegal.
    thread over-nothing can overcome this logic



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    Re: Guns vs Drugs

    Quote Originally Posted by Aderleth View Post
    My thinking doesn't really fit an option precisely:

    Both should be available but managed/policed in various ways.

    With drugs this probably means FDA oversight, licensed sellers (a la cigarettes and booze) and age restrictions for purchase.

    For guns, this means waiting periods and background checks to weed out the crazies and convicted felons.
    Aderleth, this is much closer to the way things should be, and may be in the future....a good deal of "growing up" by our nation is necessary.....a lot less clinging to our old Constitution and much more in respecting the people.....and I mean all of the people....

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    Re: Guns vs Drugs

    Who would want guns and drugs to be legal? Great. So we can have people running around armed, high on bath salts. That sounds real smart..... god bless democracy. Our lives are in the hands of idiots.

    Didn't anyone follow the Miami zombie story? Sheesh.

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    Re: Guns vs Drugs

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    Who would want guns and drugs to be legal? Great. So we can have people running around armed, high on bath salts. That sounds real smart..... god bless democracy. Our lives are in the hands of idiots.

    Didn't anyone follow the Miami zombie story? Sheesh.
    I guess the concept of making abuse of either item illegal and subject to severe punishments is beyond your comprehension?



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    Re: Guns vs Drugs

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    I guess the concept of making abuse of either item illegal and subject to severe punishments is beyond your comprehension?
    Yeah, I don't get it.

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    Re: Guns vs Drugs

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    Yeah, I don't get it.
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