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    Re: Should we open the borders?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dapper Andy View Post
    I think the idea of a waiting process is silly. You're either someone who can come to this country and immediately contribute or you're not but how do you weed out who is who if you open the country up to everyone?

    There isn't much point in those we want to come here coming here if we're also letting in all those who are dragging their countries down too.
    I never tried to argue for opening the country to "everyone."

    Only people who A.) have a job or B.) have someone who is willing to take care of them.

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    Re: Should we open the borders?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Should we loosen the law, make it easier to get a visa, make it easier to become a citizen? Yes.
    Should we just open the border? No.
    Really, what part needs loosening?

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...migration_laws
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    Re: Should we open the borders?

    This is a complicated question. Imo the borders should be open but sadly we can't afford the people currently in this country with the social programs in place much less add more.

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    Re: Should we open the borders?

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    I never tried to argue for opening the country to "everyone."

    Only people who A.) have a job or B.) have someone who is willing to take care of them.
    An open border is an open border.

    Once it's open anyone can come through.

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    Re: Should we open the borders?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dapper Andy View Post
    An open border is an open border.

    Once it's open anyone can come through.
    Read the OP. I never argued for letting "anyone come through." You're wasting my time.

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    Re: Should we open the borders?

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    I never tried to argue for opening the country to "everyone."

    Only people who A.) have a job or B.) have someone who is willing to take care of them.
    And C.) Demonstrate the ability to follow our laws after a 5 - 10 year green card period -- IF they don't have a criminal record prior to their initial application.

    My wife, from Russia, is closing in on her third year as a green card holder; she's adapting to America, and its Rule of Law, quite nicely.
    Last edited by Dooble; 05-28-13 at 03:31 PM.

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    Re: Should we open the borders?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dooble View Post
    Or C.) Demonstrate the ability to follow our laws after a 5 - 10 year green card period -- IF they don't have a criminal record prior to their initial application.

    My wife, from Russia, is closing in on her third year as a green card holder, and she's adapting to America and its Rule of Law, quite nicely.
    My girlfriend is Russian. She hasn't been arrested yet...

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    Re: Should we open the borders?

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    Read the OP. I never argued for letting "anyone come through." You're wasting my time.
    Yes you did.

    An open border is one where anyone can come through.

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    Re: Should we open the borders?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dapper Andy View Post
    Yes you did.

    An open border is one where anyone can come through.

    That's what it is.
    Should we open the borders relative to where they are today? That was the question. It's not an all-or-none proposition.

    Why are we having this argument?

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    Re: Should we open the borders?

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    I never tried to argue for opening the country to "everyone."

    Only people who A.) have a job or B.) have someone who is willing to take care of them.
    And it's absurd. First we already have work visas that are easy to get if you meet the very simple requirements. No loosening needs to take place there, nor can it without openning otherselves up to even more abuse of the system. Second, no, just no. This is what amnesty achieves and it's been proven by history. We give illegals amnesty and they use that as an anchor to bring a multitude up with them. Heck, it's how illegals operate now. One comes up, gets hooked into the illegal alien support community here, gets settled and then starts bringing up the family. Have a kid or two and the family is safe from deportation under the current lack of enforcement rules. Then up come the grandparents and cousins and close friends.

    That's the story of the neighborhood that surrounds mine. I've seen it happen over the years.

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