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    Re: Should we open the borders?

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    When the first Europeans arrived in America, the North American Indians out numbered them. At the time the American Indian was native born. At no time in America's history have immigrants ever out numbered the native born. Immigrants have always been less than 10 % of the population. The vast majority of the colonist during the American Revolution were native born. I believe every signature on the Declaration of Independence was native born except for one or two.
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    Re: Should we open the borders?

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    We have never been a country of immigrants. That's a myth. The native born have always been the majority.
    And it still is.

    If every single person in Mexico came to the United States, the native born Americans would still be the majority.

    The US population is 350 million, the Mexican population is 100 million.

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    Re: Should we open the borders?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jowar View Post
    We are a country of LEGAL immigrants not illegal immigrants if someone wants to come here, they do it legally.
    My whole point is to open up the legal process.

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    Re: Should we open the borders?

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    And it still is.

    If every single person in Mexico came to the United States, the native born Americans would still be the majority.

    The US population is 350 million, the Mexican population is 100 million.
    Well right now according to the Mexican government, 10% of Mexico's citizens are already occupying the United States.

    Actually I think the number is a little higher than the Mexican or U.S. government want to admit.
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    Re: Should we open the borders?

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    Well right now according to the Mexican government, 10% of Mexico's citizens are already occupying the United States.

    Actually I think the number is a little higher than the Mexican or U.S. government want to admit.
    I'm guessing 30%.

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    Re: Should we open the borders?

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    My whole point is to open up the legal process.
    How many people do you think this country can sustain with open borders?

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    Re: Should we open the borders?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jowar View Post
    How many people do you think this country can sustain with open borders?
    A lot. We could probably sustain over a billion people, easily, so I wouldn't worry about it from that perspective.

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    Re: Should we open the borders?

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    A lot. We could probably sustain over a billion people, easily, so I wouldn't worry about it from that perspective.
    Easily? China has about the same amount of landmass as the US, they have over a billion people. They also have far more people going hungry. They also have a law which restricts a family to having 1 child and no more leading to far more abortions and often selective abortions in which boys are prefered over girls. You really want that for the US?
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    Re: Should we open the borders?

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    My whole point is to open up the legal process.
    I'd be agreeable to refining the process. But opening it up? No thank you.
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    Re: Should we open the borders?

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    We should abandon our silly and futile notion of trying to "seal the borders" and just "let the markets work," so to speak.
    The only thing that would make your notion work is if every single other country did the same. And that is not going to happen at any time in the forseeable future.

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    I think there should be two conditions that, if satisfied, should allow anyone and everyone to enter or exit the United States at will. First, do they have a job? If yes, then they are productive, and they should be allowed to stay. If not, is there someone willing to claim them as a dependent? Is there someone willing to feed, clothe, school them? If so, there is no reason to keep them out of the country. The second condition is that they don't have a criminal record.
    Sounds nice doesn't it? Unless you actually think about it. Then its unrealistic.

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    Why not seal the border? Well, for one, futility. No matter what we do, people find ways to enter the country. So really, we're kicking and screaming, we're pouring countless resources in to fight a "problem" that is probably never going to be resolved.
    99% of those that are against illegal immigration does not want to seal the border. They have no problems with legal immigration. They also know that you don't have to seal a border in order to prevent illegal immigration. No need for walls, just common sense laws and laws that are enforced.

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    Second, aside from pure xenophobia and/or racism, I haven't heard a good argument yet for why we should try to stem the tide of immigrants in to this vast country of ours. You have to admit, that's part of the equation. Nobody would complain if a bunch of blond hair, blue eyed, English speaking Canadians were crossing the border en masse. So I think we need to be mature and ask ourselves if xenophobia is really a good enough reason to literally build a fence between ourselves and our neighbors.
    Ahh, the race card. Typical pro-illegal response. Which is nonsense of course. The only anti-illegal alien folks out there that are xenophobic and racist are in the clear minority. The rest of us don't give a crap what race comes in legally or illegally and have absolutely no problem with people coming here LEGALLY no matter the race. We just want people coming here LEGALLY. Thats it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    No. Population migrations are a natural phenomenon. It's been going on forever. Massive governments and their laws and walls are artificial phenomenon. Nature will find a way.
    We have no problem with people migrating legally. We have a problem with those that migrate into our country illegally. Whether everything about the process is artificial or not doesn't mean crap. Tornado's are natural also, doesn't mean we want them.
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