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    Re: Should we open the borders?

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    I'm not having this discussion with a Christian propagandist.........................

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    Re: Should we open the borders?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    No, HIS JOB WENT TO A PERSON IN ANOTHER COUNTRY, THAT IS WHAT OUTSOURCED MEANS.


    I'm so happy for you that you're a Citizen Of The World now.... I guess we can just shut our government down and let the UN run our lives, huh? If we don't give a **** about protecting American interests then we damn sure don't need our own personal government!
    At the end of the day, the unemployment rate has always been about the same. Think about that for a second. So, Americans are finding work a the same rate they're losing work, in the long haul.

    No, I don't think the UN should be running anything. I'm proud to be American. I think what we should do is open our borders to the rest of the world because that's what this country has always been about. The land of opportunity.

    Do you know what's written on the statue of liberty?

    "Give me your tired, your poor,
    your huddled masses yearning to breathe free.
    The wretched refuse of you teaming shore.
    Send these, the homeless, tempest-tossed to me,
    I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"


    So don't accuse me of being un-American. Leave that emotional garbage at home.

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    Re: Should we open the borders?

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    Read the OP.

    "I think there should be two conditions that, if satisfied, should allow anyone and everyone to enter or exit the United States at will. First, do they have a job? If yes, then they are productive, and they should be allowed to stay. If not, is there someone willing to claim them as a dependent? Is there someone willing to feed, clothe, school them? If so, there is no reason to keep them out of the country. The second condition is that they don't have a criminal record."
    What if their job is prostitution / drug dealing? They have a job but may not have a criminal record. They should have a criminal record for illegally coming in to the US.
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    Re: Should we open the borders?

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    At the end of the day, the unemployment rate has always been about the same. Think about that for a second. So, Americans are finding work a the same rate they're losing work, in the long haul.
    Evidence for this? Because I have here it was 2.9% in January of 1953 as opposed to 9.7% in January of 2010. That's not "about the same."
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    Re: Should we open the borders?

    Quote Originally Posted by zgoldsmith23 View Post
    Evidence for this? Because I have here it was 2.9% in January of 1953 as opposed to 9.7% in January of 2010. That's not "about the same."
    You can't pick two specific data points and call that a trend. Good god. You need to take a rolling average.


    Or, just look at it visually. You see, it's had its volatile ups and downs, but has remained generally at the same level.


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    Re: Should we open the borders?

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    You can't pick two specific data points and call that a trend. Good god. You need to take a rolling average.

    Or, just look at it visually. You see, it's had its volatile ups and downs, but has remained generally at the same level.

    Short terms effects vs. long term effects. Going from 3% to 8% in 2 years is quite drastic. It seems to me that you're saying "well, it stayed roughly the same from 1948 - 2013 so there's no big deal" which would be quite silly.
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    Re: Should we open the borders?

    Quote Originally Posted by Muhammed View Post
    No. There should be a moratorium on immigration at least until every American who wants a job or education can get one. There should be no more work or student visas issued until we have full employment for our young people (~18-25) who are suffering the most from our current economic predicament.
    Why is it that immigrants are able to find jobs but these retarded kids can't. Have you ever asked yourself that question?

    The answer is simple, immigrants are willing to work harder, and work ****tier jobs, than fatass, entitled, lazy Americans are willing to do. Americans have an entitlement mentality. They believe everything should be given to them by birthright. Immigrants do not suffer from this sickness. Will they take free ****? Sure, of course they will, who wouldn't. But the difference is that they don't DEMAND it, much less EXPECT it, like Americans do.

    So some 19 year old hipster punk who has learned to leach off of his parents for his entire life can suck my dick if he thinks that he "deserves" a job and that I should hire him just because he's an American. I don't want to hear him bitch and complain about the work or the hours while writing his little paper on how FDR was the greatest person ever. I'd much rather just hire some Mexican guy who will work hard and not complain and bitch and demand this or that out of me. And yeah, I am willing to pay MORE for a Mexican than a ****bag college student or retarded high school dropout.

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    Re: Should we open the borders?

    The borders are open. I think you meant to ask if we should close them.

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    Re: Should we open the borders?

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    Heads up.... your xenophobia is showing.
    Nice, can't answer so out come the false characterizations. Next up in the playbook, racism.

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    Re: Should we open the borders?

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Nice, can't answer so out come the false characterizations. Next up in the playbook, racism.
    Xenophobia and racism are two heads of the same coin.

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