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    Re: Should we do away with marriage as a legal status?

    Quote Originally Posted by Quik View Post
    It's much easier to establish.



    2.)That's ironic. Try adding a dependent on tricare without being legally married,
    3.)or changing an immigrant status of your spouse so that she can live with you, or even getting discounts.

    4.) The things is, I can find a million reasons why the situation is such that we require a government validation (marriage certificate)
    5.)and why a religious ceremony itself is insufficient.
    6.)On this particular issue, you've been owned before you even started.
    7.)Your "argument" is stupid and easily refuted within seconds, as it already has been.
    1.) no its not if you do it right from the beginning. Is your name on the birth certificate? you have rights to your child then
    2.) if the dependent is your child and you have custody its ZERO problem
    3.) immigration is the issue here, not the marriage
    4.) no its not REQUIRED, it is a tool you cna choose to use
    5.) yes i agree religious marriage has nothing to do with legal marriage
    6.) false you have been wrong every time you posted so far LMAO FACTS prove you wrong
    7.) you say this but yet facts agree with me and they prove you wrong.

    you lose again

    please list the facts that prove you are FORCED to marry. ill wait
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    Re: Should we do away with marriage as a legal status?

    1) What if it's not on the birth certificate?
    2) See previous issue of custody
    3) They are both issues.
    4) Yes it is.
    5) I agree as well, we should abolish legal marriage
    6) Incorrect, the opposite is true
    7) Only in your fantasy land, not in reality.

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    Re: Should we do away with marriage as a legal status?

    Quote Originally Posted by Quik View Post
    I've already explained, several times now, how the government is still involved in the marriage business, and how their involvement compels and coerces me to seek their involvement in order to level the playing field. Please pay attention.
    Marriage is nothing more than a legal contract. You could do the same thing without a marriage license using contracts.
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    Re: Should we do away with marriage as a legal status?

    Quote Originally Posted by MoSurveyor View Post
    Marriage is nothing more than a legal contract. You could do the same thing without a marriage license using contracts.
    The government should not be involved in the marriage business at all.

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    Re: Should we do away with marriage as a legal status?

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    In Scandinavia, hardly anyone gets married anymore. What is the point? If you love someone, you can live with them. In Sweden, they call this "sambo."

    There was a time when pretty much everyone agreed on the definition of marriage... so it worked. Marriage was between a man and a woman, it was a sacred bond, and divorce was an unthinkable stigma. Slowly, for better or for worse, in sickness and in health.... our perceptions have changed.

    Now, there is all this fussing and fighting, hooting and hollering over what marriage ought to be, who ought to be allowed to marry whom, etc.

    So I say like the ever forward-thinking and practical Swedes: What's the point?

    Government shouldn't need to be involved in marriage. For those who want to get married and have a ceremony and wear the pretty dress, you can do so. Go to your church and get married, or your mosque, or your temple, or your favorite casino with a midget elvis impersonator holding the proceedings.... whatever floats your boat.

    Wear your pretty dress, have your day in the sun.

    But get rid of marriage as a legal status. It serves no purpose except to make society fight over nothing.

    Marriage is a legal contract. A legal arrangement. It's religion that mucks these things up. Lawyers are just one notch above preachers. I don't think there will ever be a logical solution, but lots of faithful rationales.

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    Re: Should we do away with marriage as a legal status?

    Quote Originally Posted by Quik View Post
    1) What if it's not on the birth certificate?
    2) See previous issue of custody
    3) They are both issues.
    4) Yes it is.
    5) I agree as well, we should abolish legal marriage
    6) Incorrect, the opposite is true
    7) Only in your fantasy land, not in reality.
    1.) then you go to court to file, why on earth would your name not be there if you are married LMAO
    2.) no issue file for custody
    3.) no they are sperate
    4.) nope not required this is a lie
    5.) nope legal marriage is fine
    6.) facts and this very thread prove oyu wrong
    7.) and based on facts
    LMAO

    again i simply ask you, if you disagree just prove me wrong, why do you keep dodging this?

    please list the facts that prove you are FORCED to marry.
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    Re: Should we do away with marriage as a legal status?

    Quote Originally Posted by Quik View Post
    The government should not be involved in the marriage business at all.
    You're a few centuries too late for that sentiment. It's already installed in not only America common law but English common law, on which a lot of America civil law is based.

    But like I've already stated, you have to option to do the same things with your own contracts - knock yourself out.
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    Re: Should we do away with marriage as a legal status?

    Quote Originally Posted by Quik View Post
    The government should not be involved in the marriage business at all.
    You know, if you wanted to just default to the OP's opening argument you could always start reading the thread from beginning.

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    Re: Should we do away with marriage as a legal status?

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Government does not own marriage either. People own marriage, and as such they should be in charge of it.
    They are. The government is the people in the US. I realize that some don't want to accept this, but it is true.

    But without getting into that, we need marriage. It is an efficient contract. The government really has very little say over it at all.
    "A woman is like a teabag, you never know how strong she is until she gets in hot water." - Eleanor Roosevelt

    Keep your religion out of other people's marriages.

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    Re: Should we do away with marriage as a legal status?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    Good point. I'm sure homes of married parents who stay married "for the kids" churn out rocket scientists and emotionally perfect adults.
    They are much more likely to want to try to work on the relationship if they are married than if they aren't. There is always the option of getting out of marriage, but with the extra financial "compromises" that come with a legal divorce, it makes people more willing to work on their problems than if they are simply living together.
    "A woman is like a teabag, you never know how strong she is until she gets in hot water." - Eleanor Roosevelt

    Keep your religion out of other people's marriages.

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