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Thread: Is Fascism Right Wing?

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    Is Fascism Right Wing?

    In school, I was taught that fascism was not in fact right wing, but compared to American Government, it was very much left wing. Our history class taught that the Nazi party of Germany had a meeting with the Communist Party of Germany to discuss a number of things starting on what slogans would be and what category they would say they were. Fascists were very much left wing, but they looked like right wing extremists compared to the communists, so they decided to call the communists left wing and call the fascists right wing to avoid confusion.
    Fascism is left wing because you cannot own a business or large home if you don't toe the line that the ruling party draws.. If you don't toe the line, they take your business and give it to someone who will. It is far right of either communism or socialism in that it allows private property at all. In socialism the government owns all the business and makes sure that everyone is paid equally, and in communism the gov't owns everything and makes sure that everyone has everything they need.
    So fascism is far right of communism but still pretty far left of American conservatism. It's somewhere in the middle.
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    Re: Is Fascism Right Wing?

    Quote Originally Posted by Indeed View Post
    In school, I was taught that fascism was not in fact right wing, but compared to American Government, it was very much left wing. Our history class taught that the Nazi party of Germany had a meeting with the Communist Party of Germany to discuss a number of things starting on what slogans would be and what category they would say they were. Fascists were very much left wing, but they looked like right wing extremists compared to the communists, so they decided to call the communists left wing and call the fascists right wing to avoid confusion.
    Fascism is left wing because you cannot own a business or large home if you don't toe the line that the ruling party draws.. If you don't toe the line, they take your business and give it to someone who will. It is far right of either communism or socialism in that it allows private property at all. In socialism the government owns all the business and makes sure that everyone is paid equally, and in communism the gov't owns everything and makes sure that everyone has everything they need.
    So fascism is far right of communism but still pretty far left of American conservatism. It's somewhere in the middle.
    Its more so a horseshoe. The far right and the far left are a lot closer to each other then they are to the respective moderates on either side.

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    Re: Is Fascism Right Wing?

    Fascism is statism, they are the same thing. Both left and right are statists.

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    Re: Is Fascism Right Wing?

    Quote Originally Posted by ReformCollege View Post
    Its more so a horseshoe. The far right and the far left are a lot closer to each other then they are to the respective moderates on either side.
    When you get past the semantics of Communism and Fascism this is more or less the case. The more extreme left or right gets, and the more power they have to execute their beliefs, the less rights everyone else suddenly has.

    But anyway, yes, fascism is the polar extreme of right wing ideology, communism the polar extreme of left wing ideology.

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    Re: Is Fascism Right Wing?

    If you look back to the birth of fascism, you'll see that the term corporatism was considered as a name for the phenomenon.

    One of the descriptors is government and business in collusion.
    Anyone wondering what I'm talking about start here:
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    Re: Is Fascism Right Wing?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    When you get past the semantics of Communism and Fascism this is more or less the case. The more extreme left or right gets, and the more power they have to execute their beliefs, the less rights everyone else suddenly has.

    But anyway, yes, fascism is the polar extreme of right wing ideology, communism the polar extreme of left wing ideology.

    Fascism is the Right wing orgasm of Corporations running the gov't and is pretty much what we have in the USA right now. Big Energy, Banking, Big Pharma and Chemical corporations rule the roost. US Gov't trying to promote GMO seeds for Monsanto. "Too big to fail" bailouts for banksters. Wars to get control of Energy resources. Healthcare bills passed to take care of Big Pharma. We need to discuss starting wars for good business profits.

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    Re: Is Fascism Right Wing?

    Quote Originally Posted by What if...? View Post
    If you look back to the birth of fascism, you'll see that the term corporatism was considered as a name for the phenomenon.

    One of the descriptors is government and business in collusion.
    Corporatism is fascism and the anti-thesis of free markets.

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    Re: Is Fascism Right Wing?

    Yes. Its a far right wing authoritarian political ideology. Its a far right wing on the economic scale, and is authoritarian on the vertical scale. So on the standard political spectrum its in the way upper right quadrant.


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    Re: Is Fascism Right Wing?

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveFagan View Post
    Fascism is the Right wing orgasm of Corporations running the gov't and is pretty much what we have in the USA right now. Big Energy, Banking, Big Pharmam and Chemical corporations rule the roost. US Gov't trying ot promote GMO seeds for Monsanto. "Too big to fail" bailouts for banksters. Wars to get control of Energy resources. Healthcare bills passed to take care of Big Pharma. We need to discuss starting wars for good business profits.
    Everything you just mentioned are perfect reasons why we need to reduce the government's power.

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    Re: Is Fascism Right Wing?

    Quote Originally Posted by ReformCollege View Post
    Its more so a horseshoe. The far right and the far left are a lot closer to each other then they are to the respective moderates on either side.
    Interesting response. I'm just really used to so many people screaming that fascism and conservatism are the same thing and then proceeding to equate me to Hitler, so a reasonable tempered response was almost unexpected. Good to be sure that there are more than six sane people on this planet. Most people on this site aren't so crude (except head of joaquin) but the demonstration of ignorance by locals in my town is a bit disheartening sometimes, which is why I made this thread. I wanted to see if everyone was so ignorant or if it's just my town.

    And btw, I enjoy your avatar.
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