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  • ...flexible, always changing with the changes in popular opinion

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Thread: Who decides societal morality?

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    Re: Who decides societal morality?

    Society as a whole dictates it and I think it changes as the needs, desires, and maturity level of society changes. During wartime or times of trouble society may suggest a stronger sense of "morals" with more discipline. In times of prosperity or less strife I think society pushes for more lax "morals" and is more permissible of what would be previously considered improper behaviors. I also think as maturity and work ethic degrade morals tend to go down as well.

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    Re: Who decides societal morality?

    Quote Originally Posted by Sherman123 View Post
    Assuming you live in a democracy then yes it is generally all the people. Popular will and consensus will usually drive political, cultural, and social trends. The turning tide on drug decriminalization, gay marriage, etc are evidence of this.
    No, the existence of a democracy only guarantees that the people elect their political leaders and make other legal decisions. It does not mean that "all people" determine societal morality. Hell, it doesn't even mean that "all people" determine elected officials. The fact that some people in society think SSM is moral while others do not actually demonstrates that no everybody determines societal morality as there are different moral perspectives within society.

    So again, which people?

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    Re: Who decides societal morality?

    Quote Originally Posted by Taylor View Post
    I'd agree and disagree - everyone has voice, but some are much, much louder than others.
    While I agree that some are much louder than others, I wouldn't necessarily say that loudness is what enables someone to determine societal morality. I would say that influence does. After all, people can be very loud and lose to battle over societal morality - just look at all the loud people who opposed interracial marriage.

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    Re: Who decides societal morality?

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    Is that the choosing of societal morality, or is that the enforcing of one's own morality on society?
    It's both. They aren't mutually exclusive. In fact, the former requires the latter.

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    Re: Who decides societal morality?

    Quote Originally Posted by ThePlayDrive View Post
    While I agree that some are much louder than others, I wouldn't necessarily say that loudness is what enables someone to determine societal morality. I would say that influence does. After all, people can be very loud and lose to battle over societal morality - just look at all the loud people who opposed interracial marriage.
    That's why I think it comes down to everyone playing a role. Yes, ultimately what you say has to resonate with people - that might not happen if you're very loud, but definitely won't if you're not heard at all.

    Because of the internet, this is probably much less of an issue than it once was - I mean there was a time not too long ago when you practically had to write a book.

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    Re: Who decides societal morality?

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    Who decides societal morality?.
    Society, duh.

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    Re: Who decides societal morality?

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    Who decides societal morality?
    Society.

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    Re: Who decides societal morality?

    Doesn't really matter. The only thing that matters are individual morality and universal morality-- societal morality is just a distraction.

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    Re: Who decides societal morality?

    Societal morality is determined by those with the power and the will to have them enforced. Individual morality of course can and often is different, and can push against societal morality. In a more free society, generally it becomes more open over time (notice the size of bathing suits changing in the US over the last 120 years, and how alcohol has been treated by the government over the same time frame.

    In the US the government is generally the one to enforce societal morality, given the distaste of most Americans in having the government set morality, it is generally quite open when it comes morality issues in comparison to Saudi Arabia (where the people who set societal morality often break those rules at will).

    In Israel, it has competing enforcers of morality, the state and orthodox jews who wish for stricter controls, which is at odds with the more liberal secular population
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    Re: Who decides societal morality?

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    Who decides societal morality?

    This question is prompted by another thread regarding capital punishment. There has been a lot of talk regarding people living within what's moral in society. (Yes, Tigger plays a big part in the inspiration for this question.) So, it got me thinking... while I do agree that society should have some level of a moral bar, where is that bar? Who decides? How is it decided?

    Is it a set measure that exists whether people like it or not? Is it a "majority rules" kind of thing... which would make morality a moving target of sorts as times change?

    Note: This question pertains to how we set the bar, not what the bar is.
    Easy, society.

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