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    Re: If Obama knew....

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    There are 47 Repubs Pero. Still hungover? And McCain will not vote against Obama if politico's story from today is true.
    Actually we are both wrong, 45 Republicans, 53 Democrats and 2 independents, Sanders and King. These later two should be counted as Democrats because they caucus and vote the Democratic line. Last year there were 47 Republicans.

    But never the less, I think it would take a whole bunch of there being there and I am not sure if it is just one scandal and the president even ordered it, that would be enough to impeach him. I think it would take a series of things, wrong doings along this scale.
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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    Re: If Obama knew....

    Quote Originally Posted by Josie View Post
    Either you don't have all the details or you're so far up this admin's ass that you can't see straight.
    They gave greater scrutiny as to tax status to a group who's name comes from Taxed Enough Already.
    What better place to look??

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    Re: If Obama knew....

    Quote Originally Posted by Buck Ewer View Post
    They gave greater scrutiny as to tax status to a group who's name comes from Taxed Enough Already.
    What better place to look??
    so it is your learned opinion that such scrutiny is justified

    or that this was the only conservative group the IRS imposed disparate treatment upon



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    Re: If Obama knew....

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    Did you read that letter you posted?
    Yes, all 10 pages. Have you?

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    Re: If Obama knew....

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    so it is your learned opinion that such scrutiny is justified

    or that this was the only conservative group the IRS imposed disparate treatment upon
    The TEA Party would be the best place to start investigations into tax evasion...
    ...and that's what they did.

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    Re: If Obama knew....

    Quote Originally Posted by bubbabgone View Post
    Why do people request it?
    Or to put it another way ... what do you think would happen to you if you declare you are, file your return that way, and then the IRS declares you're not?
    And, further, seeing what we've seen so far, what do you think would happen to tea party groups who declare unilaterally they have 501c4 status?
    People request it to affirm the status. Tea party type groups live in the gray area of being political organizations, its best to get an affirmative testament to what they are lest they get re-branded a 527 or other less favorable tax status. The advantage of the 501(c)(4) is that their donor list is private.... but, again, you get to declare the status yourself. The IRS, can, if they see fit, take it away from you, but no prior approval is required.

    501(c)4 vs 501(c)3 vs 527

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    Re: If Obama knew....

    Quote Originally Posted by upsideguy View Post
    Yes, all 10 pages. Have you?
    Then you should have read the first line of the second paragraph in the answer to question one.
    ”People willing to trade their freedom for temporary security deserve neither and will lose both.” --- Ben Franklin

    Quote Originally Posted by The German View Post
    Sterotypes are mostly based on truths.

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    Re: If Obama knew....

    Quote Originally Posted by Buck Ewer View Post
    The TEA Party would be the best place to start investigations into tax evasion...
    ...and that's what they did.
    that's really stupid. Tax evaders don't tend to announce that they are tax evaders



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    Re: If Obama knew....

    Quote Originally Posted by Buck Ewer View Post
    I still don't see anything wrong with what the IRS did.
    It is only logical that if you are looking for tax cheats, you should give scrutiny to the organizations that promote not paying taxes.
    They were doing their job.
    Well, then there was True the Vote in 2010.

    By now you know the IRS has been targeting conservative groups, but one group in particular has been put through hell by the Department of Justice. I've written about True the Vote's efforts to promote fair and clean elections free of voter fraud for more than a year now. The group is based in Houston, Texas and headed by President and Founder Catherine Engelbrecht. True the Vote strongly supports voter identifications laws, which have been proven not only to produce higher voter turn out, but also preserve the intergrity of our elections.

    Attorney General Eric Holder, who of course heads the Justice Department, has done everything in his power to prevent voter identification laws from being implemented. As a result, True the Vote has been a top target for Holder and his goons. Holder's DOJ has been tormenting Engelbrecht and her organization since the beginning. Not only has she been bullied by the IRS, but the FBI and ATF too. More from Breitbart:

    True the Vote, a Houston-based nonprofit which focuses on election integrity issues, was formed by Catherine Engelbrecht and her King Street Patriots Tea Party group. True the Vote applied to the IRS for their 501(c3) non-profit status in July 2010, and almost immediately their problems began.

    Within two years, multiple federal agencies, along with an EPA-affiliated Texas state agency, began auditing True the Vote and its founders, visiting their group, their businesses, and asking questions of people who knew them. The IRS was not the only governmental agency involved.

    True the Vote’s experiences with the IRS’s abuse of power were recently discussed by Catherine Engelbrecht in a previous interview with Breitbart News. She said:

    We applied for nonprofit C-3 status early in 2010. Since that time the IRS has run us through a gauntlet of analysts and hundreds of questions over and over again. They’ve requested to see each and every tweet I’ve ever tweeted or Facebook post I’ve ever posted. They also asked to know every place I’ve ever spoken since our inception and to whom, and everywhere I intend to speak in the future.

    Engelbrecht’s application with the IRS for non-profit status allegedly triggered aggressive audits of one of her family’s personal businesses as well. The FBI (Federal Bureau of Investigation) began a series of inquiries about her and her group; the BATF (Bureau of Alcohol Tobacco and Firearms) began demanding to see her family's firearms in surprise audits of her and her husband’s small gun dealership--which had done less than $200 in sales; OSHA (Occupational Safety Hazards Administration) began a surprise audit of their small family manufacturing business; and the EPA-affiliated TCEQ (Texas Commission on Environment Quality) did a surprise visit and audit due to “a complaint being called in.”

    The Democratic Party of Texas filed a lawsuit against her, as did an ACORN affiliated group. Both the FBI and the BATF continued to poke around her life, the lives of people in her Tea Party group, and her businesses.....snip~

    http://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepa...-vote-n1601527

    Then finding nothing wrong plus they owed money to these people. They still carried on with more investigation into anyone connected to them.

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    Re: If Obama knew....

    Quote Originally Posted by upsideguy View Post
    People request it to affirm the status. Tea party type groups live in the gray area of being political organizations, its best to get an affirmative testament to what they are lest they get re-branded a 527 or other less favorable tax status.
    The advantage of the 501(c)(4) is that their donor list is private
    .... but, again, you get to declare the status yourself. The IRS, can, if they see fit, take it away from you, but no prior approval is required.

    501(c)4 vs 501(c)3 vs 527
    Donor list? DONOR LIST???
    You need to pay much closer attention to the news, bunky.

    You didn't answer the question ... having seen how they've clearly been targeted, what do you think would happen to tea party groups who declare unilaterally they have 501c4 status and file their returns as such and the IRS subsequently says they're not ?
    Under normal circumstances the IRS penalties can be pretty severe ... under Obama's IRS circumstances the penalties would be devastatting.

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