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Thread: If Obama knew....

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    Re: If Obama knew....

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    Really. Even though they specifically admitted "targeting" conservative groups. So, in essence, even in the face of an admission, people like you will still deny, deny, deny.
    Well lets see here when the IRS goes after both groups, and this 501(c)(4) stats is only supposed to be given to social welfare organizations and local associations of employees and these groups are supposed to be forbidden from endorsing and or aiding candidates for public office, but as we all know this is being abused by both liberal and conservative groups, it only makes sense that the IRS was scrutinizing them more closely. Hell its their job.


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    Re: If Obama knew....

    Quote Originally Posted by upsideguy View Post
    501(c)(4) status is not granted... its presumed. You do not have to apply for it. You merely declare you are a 501(c)(4). Of course, the IRS can take that status away from you, but you own the status until that happens.

    The reason there was no foul, is that no one lost their status as a result of this. They "crime" was they were asked a lot of questions. The link below is the actual "declaration" form.

    http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-tege/Form14449.pdf

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    Re: If Obama knew....

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    Really. Even though they specifically admitted "targeting" conservative groups. So, in essence, even in the face of an admission, people like you will still deny, deny, deny.
    An admission apparently isn't good enough for some fanboys ... that's what makes 'em fanboys.

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    Re: If Obama knew....

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Well lets see here when the IRS goes after both groups, and this 501(c)(4) stats is only supposed to be given to social welfare organizations and local associations of employees and these groups are supposed to be forbidden from endorsing and or aiding candidates for public office, but as we all know this is being abused by both liberal and conservative groups, it only makes sense that the IRS was scrutinizing them more closely. Hell its their job.
    Let me spell it out for you....The IRS ADMITTED SPECIFICALLY TARGETING CONSERVATIVE GROUPS.
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    Re: If Obama knew....

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    LEt me spell it out for you....The IRS ADMITTED SPECIFICALLY TARGETING CONSERVATIVE GROUPS.
    Did i not disagree with that point? No, i didnt.


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    Re: If Obama knew....

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    Let me spell it out for you....The IRS ADMITTED SPECIFICALLY TARGETING CONSERVATIVE GROUPS.

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    Re: If Obama knew....

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    No because they were also going after liberal, and progressive groups alike. The conservative groups were not singled out.
    This statement is completely false. An ungenerous reader might even call it a lie.
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    Re: If Obama knew....

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    This statement is completely false. An ungenerous reader might even call it a lie.
    No its not false
    Liberal group Progress Texas also received extra IRS scrutiny | The Raw Story
    Report: The IRS also targeted at least three liberal groups


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    97 to 3. The statement is false. Your defense of it does you no credit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    97 to 3. The statement is false. Your defense of it does you no credit.
    I just proved it wasnt false. But keep on believing its "completely false"


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