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    Re: If Obama knew....

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Heya Pero. Do you think Obama knowing he fired an IG in 2009 for going after a 501 3 C Liberal Education group. Which was then checked into by Congress over Obama releasing the IG and took until the end of 2009. Being in the News over the Involvement of Sacramento Mayor and friend of Obama Kevin Johnson. That he would know what was going on with the DOJ and the IRS from that time into 2010. Wherein the Issue with the Conservative group True the Vote began? That there was a change of direction so to speak?

    Some called it Walpin-Gate. Back then.....as Obama's only reason was he had lost confidence into Walpin. The NY Times would eventually cover it. Even tho they didn't want to in the beginning.
    I don't remember anything about Walpin,so I can't really answer your question. I think it was you I said I would get back with the latest independent approval rating of the president when it came out. This is independents only minus Republican and Democrats.

    April 15-22 46%
    April 22-28 45%
    April 29- May 5 42%
    May 6-12 45%
    May 13-19 46%

    As you can see the scandals haven't stuck or hurt the president yet among independents. FYI, back in November of last year Obama won his second term with a 48% approval rating among independents which this group broke approximately 50-50 between him and Romney.

    And just for the heck of it, here is another thing I keep track of, party affiliation/identificaiton.

    Here is the party affiliation/identification for 2013. Just remember party affiliation is dynamic and continues to change.

    Rep Republican
    Dem Democrat
    True Ind True Independents Independent voters who do not lean toward one or the other major political party, would consider voting for a third party candidate.
    SVLR Swing voter, leans Republican
    SVLD Swing Voter, leans Democrat
    TP Third Party Voter


    Rep Dem True Ind SVLR SVLD TP
    Nov 2012 28% 33% 8% 12% 17% 2%

    Jan 7-10 2013 27% 33% 10% 13% 16% 1%
    Feb 7-11 2013 28% 32% 8% 14% 16% 2%
    Mar 7-10 2013 27% 35% 8% 12% 15% 3%
    Apr 4-14 2013 26% 33% 9% 14% 16% 2%
    May 2-7 2013 28% 32% 10% 13% 16% 1%
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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    Re: If Obama knew....

    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene View Post
    Yes, intellectual honesty means a great deal to me. I'm glad that you're thinking about this too and am looking forward to your applying some of the required principles.
    Of the two of us I am the only one looking at this with intellectual honesty, whereas your behavior shows that intellectual honesty means nothing to you. If it did then you would agree with me that there is nothing going on to be outraged about.q

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    Re: If Obama knew....

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    that's really stupid. Tax evaders don't tend to announce that they are tax evaders
    I disagree
    My experience has shown that they will often join political groups that promote cutting taxes.
    '''Like the TEA Party.
    This is why they are all so frightened and outraged. If every member of the TEA Party were audited the IRS would find most of the tax evaders in the nation.

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    Re: If Obama knew....

    Quote Originally Posted by Buck Ewer View Post
    I disagree
    My experience has shown that they will often join political groups that promote cutting taxes.
    '''Like the TEA Party.
    This is why they are all so frightened and outraged. If every member of the TEA Party were audited the IRS would find most of the tax evaders in the nation.
    Nonsense. They are regular taxpayers. That's why they are so sensitive to tax rates; if they weren't going to pay then they wouldn't care. Much more likely to find tax cheats among those advocating higher rates.
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    Re: If Obama knew....

    'The President, Vice President and all civil Officers of the United States, shall be removed from Office on Impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other High crimes and Misdemeanors.'

    Article Two of the United States Constitution - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


    'In 1970, then-House Minority Leader Gerald R. Ford defined the criterion as he saw it: "An impeachable offense is whatever a majority of the House of Representatives considers it to be at a given moment in history."'


    Impeachment - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


    Currently, the Republicans control the House of Representatives, 233-201.

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    Re: If Obama knew....

    Of course he knew. He's the president. That's what they said of Nixon....

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    Re: If Obama knew....

    If you add up all the wrong from this leader, we have more than enough to remove him from office.

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    Re: If Obama knew....

    Quote Originally Posted by Buck Ewer View Post
    If every member of the TEA Party were audited the IRS would find most of the tax evaders in the nation.
    You misspelled "Democratic".


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    Re: If Obama knew....

    Quote Originally Posted by Josie View Post
    If Obama knew what the IRS was doing to conservative groups and allowed it to occur, would you support going forward with impeachment?
    No. Not that he wouldn't deserve it, but this would make him a living martyr to the Thoughtless Hordes.

    I want the Fruits of the Tree of Silly Thinking top be consumed by a full eight years of Obama, that people may learn what happens when childish fantasies are substituted for serious adult thinking and hard choices informed by natural limitations. I want Statists to eat every bitter, poisonous bite, so that they either join the real world, or avoid political activities including voting out of shame.

    None of that will happen if Obama is impeached convicted and given an Get Out of Responsibility card.
    Quod scripsi, scripsi

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    Re: If Obama knew....

    Quote Originally Posted by Josie View Post
    If Obama knew what the IRS was doing to conservative groups and allowed it to occur, would you support going forward with impeachment?
    Rarely are things like this that black and white. I cannot vote in your poll

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