View Poll Results: Is the Libertarian Party a close relative of the GOP in ideology?

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  • I'm a Libertarian and the Libertarian Partyand like the GOP is part of conservatism.

    2 8.70%
  • I'm a Libertarian and there is no commonality between the Liberarian and Republican parties

    10 43.48%
  • I'm a Republican and see the Libertairan Party as somewhat similar to the GOP

    5 21.74%
  • I'm a Republican and the Liberarian Party and the GOP are like night and day

    2 8.70%
  • I'm a Democrat and see the Libertarian Party as somewhat similar to the GOP

    3 13.04%
  • I'm a Democrat and see the Libertarian Party as very different than the GOP

    1 4.35%
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    Re: Question for Libertarians

    Quote Originally Posted by Taylor View Post
    Almost all government is "funded by taxes, coerced by government" - the fact that you pay for something in that manner doesn't make it an "economic issue." They are social issues. A true libertarian has no use for qualifiers on liberty. "Social liberty" is the idea that securing individual rights does not guarantee liberty - that extra steps are required to be sure that "everyone has a fair shake" or whatever it is that Obama is always saying. "Social liberalism" is what brings us concepts like "the right to housing" and "the right to healthcare"
    If those aren't economic issues, there are no economic issues.
    If you expect people to be rational, you aren't being rational.

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    Re: Question for Libertarians

    A Libertarian is just a Republican who wants to smoke pot and get laid.

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    Re: Question for Libertarians

    Quote Originally Posted by mpg View Post
    If those aren't economic issues, there are no economic issues.
    Why is it that so many so-called libertarians have only a crude understanding of libertarianism? I think it's an age thing. The typical clueless variety being college-aged males who are attracted to a super-simple philosophy that helps them reconcile their natural inclinations with the social agenda they've been fed throughout their public education. It's this latter group of cartoon libertarians that you see claiming that libertarians are much like Democrats on social issues.

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    Re: Question for Libertarians

    Quote Originally Posted by Taylor View Post
    Why is it that so many so-called libertarians have only a crude understanding of libertarianism? I think it's an age thing. The typical clueless variety being college-aged males who are attracted to a super-simple philosophy that helps them reconcile their natural inclinations with the social agenda they've been fed throughout their public education. It's this latter group of cartoon libertarians that you see claiming that libertarians are much like Democrats on social issues.
    Why is it that people think they liberalism is a stringent lockstep thought on points?

    Where is the liberty of individualism in that?

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    Re: Question for Libertarians

    Quote Originally Posted by Taylor View Post
    Why is it that so many so-called libertarians have only a crude understanding of libertarianism? I think it's an age thing. The typical clueless variety being college-aged males who are attracted to a super-simple philosophy that helps them reconcile their natural inclinations with the social agenda they've been fed throughout their public education. It's this latter group of cartoon libertarians that you see claiming that libertarians are much like Democrats on social issues.
    You're right about liberty being a simple concept. There is some disagreement about what 'liberal' means, but not much. If you accept the conventional definition, then liberals are libertarian on the majority of social issues. Of course, the Democratic Party isn't 100% liberal.
    If you expect people to be rational, you aren't being rational.

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    Re: Question for Libertarians

    Quote Originally Posted by mpg View Post
    You're right about liberty being a simple concept. There is some disagreement about what 'liberal' means, but not much. If you accept the conventional definition, then liberals are libertarian on the majority of social issues. Of course, the Democratic Party isn't 100% liberal.
    May I suggest you have that backwards?

    Seems to me that most libertarians are liberal on most social issues.

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    Re: Question for Libertarians

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord of Planar View Post
    May I suggest you have that backwards?

    Seems to me that most libertarians are liberal on most social issues.
    It would've been correct either way, but I worded it the way I did because libertarianism is much older than liberalism.
    If you expect people to be rational, you aren't being rational.

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    Re: Question for Libertarians

    There was a time when the words Libertarian Party would have been considered a contradiction in terms. The only motive a genuine libertarian could possibly have for participating in modern electoral politics would be so as to be in a position to disband it. Anything else would be hypocrisy.

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