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    Re: Is the IRS scandal worse than Watergate?

    Quote Originally Posted by SgtRock View Post
    The President claimed he found out about this from the media recently. That may be true but if it is his staff was keeping him in the dark. He has reason to be pissed because once again if this is true he is in fact a bystander and not a leader.



    So you think that President Obama should be informed when a light bulb is changed at the Pentagon?

    Interesting, very interesting.





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    Re: Is the IRS scandal worse than Watergate?

    Quote Originally Posted by SgtRock View Post
    I will support the organizations who are attempting to remove him from the white house





    You guys couldn't win a fair election,so now you are trying to change the occupant of the White House by other means.

    You and those organizations will fail miserably.




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    Re: Is the IRS scandal worse than Watergate?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    You are not operating on facts, you are not even operating on historical equivalences. You can't even call something a WH scandal went there are of as yet any connections to the WH.

    If you knew the long history of Nixon's dirty tricks, going back to his days in CA, his being the right hand man of Joe McCarthy,
    Do you know about JFK's connections to Joe McCarthy ? I doubt you do. JFK approved of every proposal of Joe McCarthy.

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    Re: Is the IRS scandal worse than Watergate?

    Quote Originally Posted by grip View Post
    Not comparable. Fail.
    What, are you seriously saying a terrorist attack on a US diplomatic post under Bush is not comparable to one under Obama?
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    Re: Is the IRS scandal worse than Watergate?

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    What, are you seriously saying a terrorist attack on a US diplomatic post under Bush is not comparable to one under Obama?
    Well duh, an attack on diplomats under Bush can't be used as attack issue on Obama, huge, massive difference.
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    Re: Is the IRS scandal worse than Watergate?

    Quote Originally Posted by grip View Post
    Similar in offense.

    But the Benghazi screw up is much worse because people died as a result of a poor policy decision leaving them unprotected.
    What he said, the IRS scandal has diverted attention from Benghazi and that is sad but the Whitehouse is probably smiling that we can still be manipulated

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    Re: Is the IRS scandal worse than Watergate?

    Quote Originally Posted by SgtRock View Post
    Do you know for a fact that the president was not involved? Do you know for a fact that David Axelrod, who was the senior strategist for the re-election campaign for Obama in 2012 was not involved? I suggest that you do not and that is why we are going to have hearings on this and when we find out the truth we will have trials and people will go to prison. Mark my word, people will go to prison over this.
    No one is going to prison because no harm was actually done. This is about the IRS selecting applicants for 501(c)(4) status for deeper review based upon the name of the applicant. 501(c)(4) is presumed... the IRS can overturn the status, but the applicant does not have to await approval to be deemed a 501(c)(4). No applicants were actually turned down, so no harm was done.

    501(c)(4) status is for Civic Leagues, Social Welfare Organizations, and Local Associations of Employees. From Wikipedia: "....501(c)(4) organizations may inform the public on controversial subjects and attempt to influence legislation relevant to its program[37] and, unlike 501(c)(3) organizations, they may also participate in political campaigns and elections, as long as its primary activity is the promotion of social welfare.[38] The tax exemption for 501(c)(4) organizations applies to most of their operations, but contributions may be subject to gift tax, and income spent on political activities - generally the advocacy of a particular candidate in an election - is taxable.[39] 501(c)(4) organizations are not permitted direct or indirect participation or intervention in political campaigns on behalf of or in opposition to any candidate for public office.[36]..." and "...The law allows Section 501(c)(4) organizations to self-declare and hold themselves out as tax-exempt; they do not have to obtain any approval from the Internal Revenue Service, though they may...."

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/501%28c%29_organization

    The fact is that most of the new 501(c)(4) applicants in the 2009-2011 time frame were tea party organizations and entities organizing to take advantage of Citizens United. As each lives in the gray area between politics and social welfare, a good argument could be made the IRS was merely doing its job intelligently.

    ...as is typical in politics, the outrage of many is way ahead of fact and reality.
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    Re: Is the IRS scandal worse than Watergate?

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    Do you know about JFK's connections to Joe McCarthy ? I doubt you do. JFK approved of every proposal of Joe McCarthy.

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    Good grief, what in those 27 pages of clippings from foreign news services (TASS!, East Germany! China!!!) on the 1960 campaign makes Kennedy equal to Joe McCarthy? Beyond that, are you trying to argue that Kennedy was as corrupt as Nixon?
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    Re: Is the IRS scandal worse than Watergate?

    I see different as the term for levels of corrution. The Democratic party was permanently harmed by the Kennedy's. When will top secret documents be released? Obama permanently caused a rift with Repubs, real or not, by agreeing to Teddy's health plan which Hillary wouldn't. Bush permanently ruined federal education policy by agreeing with Teddy on NCLB.

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    Re: Is the IRS scandal worse than Watergate?

    No.. Not even close.


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