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    Re: Is the IRS scandal worse than Watergate?

    Do you know what's worse than Watergate?

    The fact that Nixon didn't get locked up for Watergate like some of the other crooks who were 'just following orders'. Orders from Nixon.

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    Re: Is the IRS scandal worse than Watergate?

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptinSarcastic View Post
    Actually, liberals were furious with Democrats for NOT doing these kinds of things to Bush.

    Kucinich and Wexler were actively proposing impeachment on 35 charges against Bush, but Democrats were not interested in pursuing this course of action even though the liberal base was sure that Bush was a criminal.

    These GOP witch hunts are not coming from the base, they are coming from GOP Congressmen.

    You could find hundreds of thousands or articles arguing for investigations and/or impeachment of Bush from the left, but virtually zero support in the Democratically controlled Congress. Democrats would not allow themselves to be manipulated by the farthest left of their base. Republicans seem to represent ONLY the farthest right of their base.



    Correct.

    We see this all of the time.

    Ultimately, I don't believe that the GOP's activities will turn out well for the GOP.

    There are some good people in the GOP, but unfortunately they are not in charge.




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    Re: Is the IRS scandal worse than Watergate?

    Quote Originally Posted by grip View Post
    Similar in offense.

    But the Benghazi screw up is much worse because people died as a result of a poor policy decision leaving them unprotected.
    So when is Bush going to jail for the 16 Americans that died in over 30 embassy and consular attacks under his watch? When are the investigations starting?
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    Re: Is the IRS scandal worse than Watergate?

    The IRS so called scandal is nothing like Watergate. What the IRS did, was basically doing their job. They are suppose to check and recheck people.. it is their job! Should they have done a few more "left wing" groups to even things out.. sure, but in the end, they were just doing their jobs. If they found one, just one attempt of fraud then it is all justified.
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    Re: Is the IRS scandal worse than Watergate?

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    The IRS so called scandal is nothing like Watergate. What the IRS did, was basically doing their job. They are suppose to check and recheck people.. it is their job! Should they have done a few more "left wing" groups to even things out.. sure, but in the end, they were just doing their jobs. If they found one, just one attempt of fraud then it is all justified.



    I'm not a guy who loves the IRS, but you do have a valid point. You can't make an omelette without breaking a few eggs.

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    Re: Is the IRS scandal worse than Watergate?

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    And the G-nO-P has tried to help President Obama, eh?

    Give us a frickin' break here.
    Excuse me, did I say that? Do you have a reading comprehension issue?
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    Re: Is the IRS scandal worse than Watergate?

    Quote Originally Posted by SgtRock View Post
    let me get this right. The government going after it's own citizens based on political or religious ideology is not worse than politicians spying on each other and attempting to cover it up?
    It is a false equivalence, you should have compared Nixon using the IRS to go after political opponents/groups.

    Watergate was just the tip of the corruption iceberg in the Nixon WH.
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    If you wanna know why Trumpsters are ignoring you its for the same reason you ignored the KKKs complaints about Obama.
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    When it comes down to it, all facts are cherry picked.
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    He didn't say it didn't make sense. He said it is complete nonsense.

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    Re: Is the IRS scandal worse than Watergate?

    Quote Originally Posted by SgtRock View Post
    let me get this right. The government going after it's own citizens based on political or religious ideology is not worse than politicians spying on each other and attempting to cover it up?
    ... let's start out with the fact that you got it wrong: there is no aspect about this story that has the "government going after its own citizens".... it has to do with the IRS using "tea party" as a selection tool to better scrutinize 501(c)(4) applications. The 504(c)(4) is a designation used for Civic Leagues, Social Welfare Organizations, and Local Associations of Employees, that allows them tax exempt status so long as the primary purpose is not political. The IRS determined that Tea Party organizations might actually be "primarily" political, and thus selected them for scrutiny.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/501%28c%29_organization

    You have the default right to declare yourself as a 501(c)(4), pending IRS approval. The IRS denied no one this status, so therefore, in reality there was no harm and thus no foul.

    This is yet one more example of Republicans making a ton of noise about nothing to obfuscate the reality that their core political political program is an empty suit; devoid of ideas.

    Calling this on the level of Watergate shows ignorance of either this issue, Watergate (or both), or just a simple, unhealthy obsession with finding some dirt on Obama.

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    Re: Is the IRS scandal worse than Watergate?

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    So when is Bush going to jail for the 16 Americans that died in over 30 embassy and consular attacks under his watch? When are the investigations starting?



    G.W. Bush (And Cheney.) got off easy, the Democrats had a lot of reasons to impeach Bush.

    The one thing that stands out in my mind is the torture. That is a permanent stain on America's honor.






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    Re: Is the IRS scandal worse than Watergate?

    Quote Originally Posted by SgtRock View Post
    Whether or not the president was involved or not has yet to be determined. He may not have been involved. He may have known about it and was compliant or not. We simply do not know at this time. Steve Miller, Sarah Hall Ingram, and Lois Lerner all need to be subpoenaed and testify under oath together at the same table.
    So if there has not been a connection between the Ohio IRS division that did this and a WH directive, then it seem that this is not equal to what Nixon directly did in either his IRS directives or his Watergate directives.

    Just out of curiosity, were you alive during Nixon's terms?
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    If you wanna know why Trumpsters are ignoring you its for the same reason you ignored the KKKs complaints about Obama.
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    When it comes down to it, all facts are cherry picked.
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    He didn't say it didn't make sense. He said it is complete nonsense.

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