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    Re: Is the IRS scandal worse than Watergate?

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptinSarcastic View Post
    It's fun to invent fictional either/or scenarios.

    Let me take a run at it...

    If the GOP witch hunts that regularly accuse the President of committing impeachable crimes are unable to produce evidence, they are either incompetent investigators and should be fired or they harming the nation with their purely political accusations and should be fired.

    See how that works.

    For this to be worse than Watergate, you would need evidence that the President committed a crime and right now, though it seems clear that the filtering process the IRS used was inappropriate, there is still no evidence that it was criminal.

    I think scandal mongering has become GOPorn, the fantasies of Republicans who can't seem to find any path to winning national elections in the foreseeable future unless they can find a way to destroy their potential adversaries.



    100 percent on the money.

    Exactly what I've been saying for a long time.

    The GOP has a problem.




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    Re: Is the IRS scandal worse than Watergate?

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    If you can't post a link to a reliable source on this I will continue to believe that you made this up.
    That's fine - you and Dezaad can continue to believe that I made it up. It's good for a few chuckles.

    I mean, after all...I'm clearly biased.

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    Re: Is the IRS scandal worse than Watergate?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    That's fine - you and Dezaad can continue to believe that I made it up. It's good for a few chuckles.

    I mean, after all...I'm clearly biased.



    Don't you feel better now that you have come clean?

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    Re: Is the IRS scandal worse than Watergate?

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    No, it's not worse than Watergate because the president was not involved.

    I don't have any proof of this but I believe that some, if not all, of this happened because some people at the IRS were trying to score some brownie points.

    The IRS definitely has way too much power (Yes, I have gone a few rounds with the IRS). Something needs to be done about that.





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    Whether or not the president was involved or not has yet to be determined. He may not have been involved. He may have known about it and was compliant or not. We simply do not know at this time. Steve Miller, Sarah Hall Ingram, and Lois Lerner all need to be subpoenaed and testify under oath together at the same table.
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    Re: Is the IRS scandal worse than Watergate?

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptinSarcastic View Post

    "they can find a way to destroy their potential adversaries"
    Let me turn that around for you. For 8 years Dems did just that. They did everything they could to bring down President Bush. And now they are using dirty Chicago style politics to further destroy the Republican party. All at the same time claiming they knew nothing about nothing. Like Sgt Shultz they know nothiing. What a crock.
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    Re: Is the IRS scandal worse than Watergate?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    At no point in the reports or research I've seen does it say that they aren't actually NFP or qualify as tax-exempt for some other qualification(s). 501c3s, Form 990s, etc. are not considered to be public records. Therefore, there is no way to know.
    Those aren't the designations they're going for. They applied to be 501c4s, which are for organizations whose primary purpose is not political. And they clearly are political organizations.
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    Re: Is the IRS scandal worse than Watergate?

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    Those aren't the designations they're going for. They applied to be 501c4s, which are for organizations whose primary purpose is not political. And they clearly are political organizations.
    Hmmm...not good.

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    Re: Is the IRS scandal worse than Watergate?

    Quote Originally Posted by SgtRock View Post
    Let me turn that around for you. For 8 years Dems did just that. They did everything they could to bring down President Bush. And now they are using dirty Chicago style politics to further destroy the Republican party. All at the same time claiming they knew nothing about nothing. Like Sgt Shultz they know nothiing. What a crock.



    And the G-nO-P has tried to help President Obama, eh?

    Give us a frickin' break here.

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    Re: Is the IRS scandal worse than Watergate?

    Given the IRS has a history of causing people to blow out their own brains.....damn straight it's worse.

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    Re: Is the IRS scandal worse than Watergate?

    Quote Originally Posted by SgtRock View Post
    Let me turn that around for you. For 8 years Dems did just that. They did everything they could to bring down President Bush. And now they are using dirty Chicago style politics to further destroy the Republican party. All at the same time claiming they knew nothing about nothing. Like Sgt Shultz they know nothiing. What a crock.
    Actually, liberals were furious with Democrats for NOT doing these kinds of things to Bush.

    Kucinich and Wexler were actively proposing impeachment on 35 charges against Bush, but Democrats were not interested in pursuing this course of action even though the liberal base was sure that Bush was a criminal.

    These GOP witch hunts are not coming from the base, they are coming from GOP Congressmen.

    You could find hundreds of thousands or articles arguing for investigations and/or impeachment of Bush from the left, but virtually zero support in the Democratically controlled Congress. Democrats would not allow themselves to be manipulated by the farthest left of their base. Republicans seem to represent ONLY the farthest right of their base.
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