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    Re: Is the IRS scandal worse than Watergate?

    Quote Originally Posted by SgtRock View Post
    let me get this right. The government going after it's own citizens based on political or religious ideology is not worse than politicians spying on each other and attempting to cover it up?
    That's one way to look it. I see it as government doing it's job unevenly.
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    Re: Is the IRS scandal worse than Watergate?

    Quote Originally Posted by SgtRock View Post
    let me get this right. The government going after it's own citizens based on political or religious ideology is not worse than politicians spying on each other and attempting to cover it up?
    If that was 200 years ago, Nixon would be dead. America once had very rigid views on espionage.

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    Re: Is the IRS scandal worse than Watergate?

    Quote Originally Posted by sbrettt View Post
    Not even remotely.
    That's scary.

    Time to reestablish the the House Un-American Activities Committee.

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    Re: Is the IRS scandal worse than Watergate?

    Quote Originally Posted by sbrettt View Post
    That's one way to look it. I see it as government doing it's job unevenly.
    Except that is a massive scandal and a gross injustice. Look at it this way: Imagine if the police only arrest blacks for activities committed by whites at the same rate. Here, too, you would have the "government doing its job unevenly." But no one would be running to its defense.

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    Re: Is the IRS scandal worse than Watergate?

    Quote Originally Posted by sbrettt View Post
    That's one way to look it. I see it as government doing it's job unevenly.
    I see it as violating the civil rights of Americans by the IRS. and that sir is a crime.
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    Re: Is the IRS scandal worse than Watergate?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    I don't get how. Technically what the IRS did isn't illegal (it's immoral as all hell, it's tacky, and it's incredibly partisan, however). Watergate was very much illegal.

    If anything, it just goes to show how so many Washington agencies go essentially unchecked...and the Department of the Treasury is the worst. If you work for the IRS or the Secret Service, you're about as close to being "above the law" as you can get.

    If it can be shown or proven that the IRS policy was to purposely target political opponents of the administration ordered, coerced or collaborated with by WH personnel, then it's an illegal abuse of power. I doubt this will ever get that far or at least to the inner circle.
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    Re: Is the IRS scandal worse than Watergate?

    Quote Originally Posted by SgtRock View Post
    let me get this right. The government going after it's own citizens based on political or religious ideology is not worse than politicians spying on each other and attempting to cover it up?
    Ohh, who do you love better, baby, Daddy Nixon or Mommy Obama? [pinch the cheek]

    How about we try a full recall? Quote:

    'Article 2, section 1 of the Articles of Impeachment against Richard M. Nixon, adopted by the House Judiciary Committee, July 29, 1974

    He has, acting personally and through his subordinates and agents, endeavored to obtain from the Internal Revenue Service, in violation of the constitutional rights of citizens, confidential information contained in income tax returns for purposed not authorized by law, and to cause, in violation of the constitutional rights of citizens, income tax audits or other income tax investigations to be initiated or conducted in a discriminatory manner.

    At this point, as I understand, there's no evidence that Obama personally is responsible for any of the "mistakes that had been made". But on the level of "administrations", it is pretty much the same kind of abuse of power.
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    Re: Is the IRS scandal worse than Watergate?

    One of the organizations was asked by the IRS what the contents of it's members prayers was. It's none of their business. That's between the individual and his god.
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    Re: Is the IRS scandal worse than Watergate?

    Quote Originally Posted by grip View Post
    If it can be shown or proven that the IRS policy was to purposely target political opponents of the administration ordered, coerced or collaborated with by WH personnel, then it's an illegal abuse of power. I doubt this will ever get that far or at least to the inner circle.
    Its an abuse of power even if the WH was completely in the dark about it.

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    Re: Is the IRS scandal worse than Watergate?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fletch View Post
    Its an abuse of power even if the WH was completely in the dark about it.

    Only if it can be proven they were consciously targeting one group unfairly. It might be concluded that during that time conservative groups cheated more on their taxes....lol
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