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    Re: Is the IRS scandal worse than Watergate?

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    Re: Is the IRS scandal worse than Watergate?

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    Re: Is the IRS scandal worse than Watergate?

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptinSarcastic View Post
    Well duh, an attack on diplomats under Bush can't be used as attack issue on Obama, huge, massive difference.
    Yea terrorists under Bush were our friends and the people who died at US diplomatic missions deserved it... where as when it happens under Obama, then it is a national tragedy and heads have to roll because some terrorists had the balls to attack a minor US diplomatic station that was doubling as a CIA outpost in a country that has just come out of a civil war that overthrew a former frienmeny of the US.... well the Bush administration.
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    Re: Is the IRS scandal worse than Watergate?

    Quote Originally Posted by SgtRock View Post
    Why the IRS scandal is worse than Watergate. Watergate was a political scandal in which the DNC offices in DC were broken into and President Nixon and his administration attempted to cover it up. The IRS scandal involves the government in the form of the IRS going after American Citizens including groups, organizations, and individual citizens based on their political or religious ideology. If a smoking gun is found that directly ties the president to this he must be impeached. If however he was kept in the dark those who kept it from the president must be fired. There is evidence that officials in the white house knew about this in June 2012, during the campaign. Those who were directly involved must go to prison. This is huge and every American regardless of their political persuasion should demand that heads roll. This scandal could be the catalyst that lights a fire under our politicians asses to rewrite the tax code and abolish the IRS. Just think what a flat tax or national sales tax would do for our economy. And another thing, most people are afraid to talk about the IRS because their worried that they too will be targeted. We should not have to be afraid of our government on the other hand the government should fear us. WE ARE THE PEOPLE!

    So this is a simple question. Is the IRS scandal worse than Watergate?
    It's a little too early for anyone to really say if this is or is not "worse" than Watergate. As Bob Shieffer noted on yesterday's Face the Nation, “I don’t want to compare this in any way to Watergate … but I have to tell you, that is exactly the approach the Nixon administration took. You’re taking exactly the same line,” Mr. Schieffer said.
    CBS' Bob Schieffer unleashes on White House official: 'Why are you here today?' - Washington Times

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    So when is Bush going to jail for the 16 Americans that died in over 30 embassy and consular attacks under his watch? When are the investigations starting?
    Wow, could not even address the thread topic before you did your routine Bu bu bu bu bu bu Bush shtick. Who could have guessed? Sadly for you, the obvious answer is never. While there are literally dozens of intelligent answers to that idiotic attempt to drag Bush into yet another thread about someone or something else, the most obvious to it is 2013 and while you suffer from Bush Derangement Syndrome, the real world does not. Try to keep up. With something other than your well documented obsession with Bush and trying to use it to cover for, excuse and rationalize well virtually any topic that does not involve Bush. It is not only ineffective but just mind numbingly beside the point. As in not the point or the topic no matter how much you really wish it was.

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    The IRS so called scandal is nothing like Watergate. What the IRS did, was basically doing their job. They are suppose to check and recheck people.. it is their job! Should they have done a few more "left wing" groups to even things out.. sure, but in the end, they were just doing their jobs. If they found one, just one attempt of fraud then it is all justified.
    Well it appears as an afterthought, as in after knee jerk Bu bu bu bu bu bu bu bu Bush thought, you have landed on just plain trite and empty Bu bu bu bu bu bu bu bu Bushism/rationale. Clearly the IRS were going above and beyond what is their job to do, what is actually legal to do in the commission of said job or an APOLOGY would not need be offered. Somehow as this gets investigated and more details and accountability come to light, well let's just say it would probably behoove any rational person at IRS to avoid using the PeteEU Bu bu bu bu bu bu bu bu bu Bush gambit. In fact I bet even the most ardent of Bush obsessives would counsel avoiding that excuse, as it will likely be more of a self laid snare than an effective dodge.

    Just to be provide an example, when I last logged in you were over in a thread about the AP phone records. What was your "take" on it? Bu bu bu bu bu bu bu Bush.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    What, are you seriously saying a terrorist attack on a US diplomatic post under Bush is not comparable to one under Obama?
    Yeah that is what he is telling you, but then that is not the topic. I don't think you have ever been accused of not consistently dragging Bush into as many threads and topics as you can. So aside from your need to drag Bush into this topic, it seems arguing this further is just an infatuation you can't help but indulge. Fine by me. Has nothing to do with the current event, is not an excuse for them either. So yeah, this time instead of all those "murders" you were going on about in a thread about the AP? Now you are not only trying to drag Bu bu bu bu bu bu bu bu bu bu Bush into a thread about the IRS too but you want to drag in Bengazi now? Why, were not the dozen or so threads actually about Benghazi you tried unsuccessfully to drag Bu bu bu bu bu bu bu bu bu Bush into not enough? Or was the way it was laughed at so frustrating that you just had to try one last time to drag Bu bu bu bu bu bu bu bu bu bu bu Bush into another topic/thread he is not a part of.

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    Yea terrorists under Bush were our friends and the people who died at US diplomatic missions deserved it... where as when it happens under Obama, then it is a national tragedy and heads have to roll because some terrorists had the balls to attack a minor US diplomatic station that was doubling as a CIA outpost in a country that has just come out of a civil war that overthrew a former frienmeny of the US.... well the Bush administration.
    Yip, not only can everything about the Benghazi situation, the AP phone situation and the IRS situation be explained by a simple interjection of Bu bu bu bu bu bu bu bu Bush, but hell everything under the sun can too, right? Seriously, catch a clue.There is plenty in all of these situations that should cause concern for rational people in general regardless their political affiliation. I know it just gals you that the current administration is also being called to answer for what has become a list serious issues, but Bu bu bu bu bu bu bu bu bu Bush is not an answer, excuse or even rational explanation for any of it. It is simply a reflection of your obsession with Bush and little else. Let me help you with one more clue, you won't be seeing any of your Bu bu bu bu bu bu bu bu Bush excuse making used by a single person in any of these scandals you keep trying to drag him into. There are clear and obvious reason for that too, but somehow someway I suspect you are clueless as to why, though I bet you can post reams of rationalizations about why you think it should. Guess what, it is 2013 and that Bu bu bu bu bu bu Bush OCD dog don't hunt.
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    Re: Is the IRS scandal worse than Watergate?

    Quote Originally Posted by mpg View Post
    Is anyone disputing that?
    The guy I replied to was disputing that heavier tax scrutiny is worse than breaking and entering.
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    Re: Is the IRS scandal worse than Watergate?

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    Not really trying to dodge.

    I don't believe that the president can be expected to know when a light bulb gets changed at the Pentagon.

    If you can't depend on those serving under you to get the job done in the right way, you need to make some changes.

    There is some of that going on right now.
    Oh really?
    If you expect people to be rational, you aren't being rational.

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    Re: Is the IRS scandal worse than Watergate?

    Only somebody who did not live through Watergate would even entertain such a thought for a second.
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    Re: Is the IRS scandal worse than Watergate?

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    What, are you seriously saying a terrorist attack on a US diplomatic post under Bush is not comparable to one under Obama?
    The Libyan consulate was requesting help and protection during an attack and they wouldn't send any. The circumstances were different under each situation and this is the one we're looking at now, not something years ago under a former administration. And what about the crap Susan Rice told everyone about a demonstration, either she lied or they're that incompetent.
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    Re: Is the IRS scandal worse than Watergate?

    Quote Originally Posted by grip View Post
    The Libyan consulate was requesting help and protection during an attack and they wouldn't send any. The circumstances were different under each situation and this is the one we're looking at now, not something years ago under a former administration. And what about the crap Susan Rice told everyone about a demonstration, either she lied or they're that incompetent.
    The Libyan consulate was not the only one having problems that week.

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    Re: Is the IRS scandal worse than Watergate?

    Quote Originally Posted by SgtRock View Post
    Do you know for a fact that the president was not involved? Do you know for a fact that David Axelrod, who was the senior strategist for the re-election campaign for Obama in 2012 was not involved? I suggest that you do not and that is why we are going to have hearings on this and when we find out the truth we will have trials and people will go to prison. Mark my word, people will go to prison over this.
    Since you asked that we mark your words, just thought we would check in for an update. The only "scandal" here seems to be some overzealous congressman of a particular political party that spent several months grandstanding to hide the fact their party has NO plan for jobs, healthcare or how to grow the economy. No one is going to jail.

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