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    Re: Is the IRS scandal worse than Watergate?

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    I believe that if Obama had known about this he would have put a stop to it.
    The question is whether or not he should've known. You're 2 for 2 in dodging.
    If you expect people to be rational, you aren't being rational.

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    Re: Is the IRS scandal worse than Watergate?

    Quote Originally Posted by mpg View Post
    It might not be his fault that he didn't know about this (IF he didn't know about this), but if it isn't his fault, then someone failed to tell him about it, and that person should be fired. The lady who was in charge of that office should definitely be fired.
    I had someone who's a professional civil servant with in the Burial of Land Management. He said it's as if no one is actually in charge throughout the entire Executive branch of government for the past four years. And as a result, nobody no longer give a damn.

    Just about every one of Obama's appointments in the past four years and four months were of unqualified, incompetent, "second rate" individuals.

    Why is that ?

    It may be because Obama just isn't an elitist but Obama isn't, he thinks he's an elitist but he's also a narcissist. That explains why he chose to be a community organiser. He would have never have made it in the private sector. -> Narcissistic personality disorder - MayoClinic.com

    Narcissist usually tend to surround themselves with people who they look down upon and believe they are better than they are. No way would Obama have someone who's better than he is or is more competent than he is. That's one of the traits of narcissism. But when the narcissist is incompetent, you know who he's going to surround himself with ?

    One of the major problems with Obama's disorder is that his feelings get hurt to easily. A perfect example would be Obama firing General McCHrystal because Obama's feeling got hurt. General McCHrystal was the only soldier who knew how to fight the Taliban and Obama fired him. We lost Afghanistan on that day.

    In fact more Generals, Flag Officers and those in command in our military have either been fired, relieved of commands or forced in early retirement by Obama than any other President since WW ll. If you hurt Obama's feeling or weren't politically correct enough for Obama your career is over. The result is there are so many in the military who look at each other and wonder if they are next, they also no longer give a damn and are being relieved of their commands. It went as far down the ranks that even a Marine NCO was ordered by Obama to be court martial because the Marine hurt Obama's feelings.

    Remember Obama's Secret Service Agents who were whoring around in Columbia ? It's because they no longer give a damn. IRS agents targeting conservatives ? They no longer give a damn. 52 % of Americans also seem not to give a damn back in November.

    In the private sector, Obama wouldn't last. I seriously doubt he could have survived flipping burgers without being fired. Obama skated through life from high school to the White House.

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    Re: Is the IRS scandal worse than Watergate?

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    A lot of GOPers (Not all.) are on the wrong (losing) side of almost every social issue.
    Could you list those specific social issues ?

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    Re: Is the IRS scandal worse than Watergate?

    Quote Originally Posted by SgtRock View Post
    One of the organizations was asked by the IRS what the contents of it's members prayers was. It's none of their business. That's between the individual and his god.
    If it was a religious exemption I think they have that right. I could pray to the computer gods and I'm pretty sure the Feds wouldn't allow me to be a tax-free entity. Years ago the Psychedelic Venus Church tried it but I don't think they were successful.
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    Re: Is the IRS scandal worse than Watergate?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    Are you really going to claim that very few businesses or organizations don't have a decided political lean while legitimately qualifying for tax exempt status?
    It's not a matter of their lean, it's a matter of how much money they spend, if any, on political pursuits. Our professional organization sent us a statement each year showing what part of our membership fees we could deduct as a business expense that year because part of our money was used for our PAC activities, which was not deductible.
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    Re: Is the IRS scandal worse than Watergate?

    Quote Originally Posted by mpg View Post
    The question is whether or not he should've known. You're 2 for 2 in dodging.



    Not really trying to dodge.

    I don't believe that the president can be expected to know when a light bulb gets changed at the Pentagon.

    If you can't depend on those serving under you to get the job done in the right way, you need to make some changes.

    There is some of that going on right now.

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    Re: Is the IRS scandal worse than Watergate?

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    Not really trying to dodge.

    I don't believe that the president can be expected to know when a light bulb gets changed at the Pentagon.

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    I don't think there's anyone in the Obama administration that knows how to change a light bulb.

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    Re: Is the IRS scandal worse than Watergate?

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    Could you list those specific social issues ?



    Since it's you asking the question the first thing that comes up is immigration. Some GOPers are trying to deal with this issue in a humane, thoughtful way, lots of others- not so much. This has the real potential to do serious damage to the GOP if not handled right.

    Then we come to birth control and lots of GOPers wanting to get the government off of Wall Streets back and into America's bedrooms, another loser for the GOP. A few GOPers have moved closer to the middle on this, not many.

    On gay marriage, more GOPers are coming around, still a lot of opposition.

    Those three issues cost the GOP quite a few votes last November.

    How they play out in the future is up to the GOP.

    That's the way that I see it.

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    Re: Is the IRS scandal worse than Watergate?

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    I don't think there's anyone in the Obama administration that knows how to change a light bulb.



    Actually I think that a lot of them are pushing the increased use of LEDs.

    Which seldom need to be changed.
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    Re: Is the IRS scandal worse than Watergate?

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    Since it's you asking the question the first thing that comes up is immigration. Some GOPers are trying to deal with this issue in a humane, thoughtful way, lots of others- not so much. This has the real potential to do serious damage to the GOP if not handled right.

    Then we come to birth control and lots of GOPers wanting to get the government off of Wall Streets back and into America's bedrooms, another loser for the GOP. A few GOPers have moved closer to the middle on this, not many.


    On gay marriage, more GOPers are coming around, still a lot of opposition.

    Those three issues cost the GOP quite a few votes last November.

    How they play out in the future is up to the GOP.

    That's the way that I see it.
    Re: Immigration:
    The GOP believes that as a nation we are a nation of laws and that America's immigration policies should be what's best for America not what's best for the immigrant, gang bangers, terrorist and the Democrat Party.

    When you actually read the Senates Immigration Bill, you'll also oppose it. Legalising all illegal alien gang members !

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    Re: Birth Control:
    What's the problem here ? There's been birth control options since man first discovered sheep. Why should I have to pay for it ?

    Re: Gay Marriage:
    Again a small fraction of society forcing their life style on the majority.
    The issue are the words, "marriage." Call it something else that allows the same rights and privileges as marriage and there's no longer a controversy. But noooo.

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