View Poll Results: Do you think conservatives' history creates a distrust of the messenger?

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    Re: Would AP/IRS seem more serious if the right had not spent tge last 5 years...

    Quote Originally Posted by MoSurveyor View Post
    I didn't say Congress started that. In fact, I specifically mentioned Republican's most devoted fans (aka, fanatics) believing that. Is that what you meant to say about the 9/11 conpriracy, that they were only from the fanatics? It sure didn't look like that.
    My point was that the claim that conservatives' behavior towards Obama has ever been more ridiculous than liberals behavior towards Bush is laughable; and that since their behavior didn't effect the Democrats in 2006 and 2008, I find it unlikely that the birthers are going to really effect Republicans in 2014 or 2016.

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    Re: Would AP/IRS seem more serious if the right had not spent tge last 5 years...

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    My point was that the claim that conservatives' behavior towards Obama has ever been more ridiculous than liberals behavior towards Bush is laughable; and that since their behavior didn't effect the Democrats in 2006 and 2008, I find it unlikely that the birthers are going to really effect Republicans in 2014 or 2016.
    I don't remember the Dems ever assigning someone like Starr to a Republican president.
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    Re: Would AP/IRS seem more serious if the right had not spent tge last 5 years...

    Quote Originally Posted by stonewall50 View Post
    Defense of bush was rare...even a TV show called little bush aired.

    I mean come on.

    But if this were a republican you know the left would be all over this.
    I agree. Maybe I hold the GOP in a place where I expect them to be better than that. GOP culture since 2008 IMHO has been disappointing and embarrassing. Not what I expect the party I joined because I was attracted to their desire to walk the moral high ground.
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    Re: Would AP/IRS seem more serious if the right had not spent tge last 5 years...

    Btw, these scandals only seem less "serious" to the partisan apologists. Yes, yes, we know, Bush did it too! Bush isn't POTUS.
    Last edited by clownboy; 05-18-13 at 06:03 PM.

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    Re: Would AP/IRS seem more serious if the right had not spent tge last 5 years...

    Quote Originally Posted by MoSurveyor View Post
    I don't remember the Dems ever assigning someone like Starr to a Republican president.
    Is it Obama's turn?

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patrick_Fitzgerald
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    Re: Would AP/IRS seem more serious if the right had not spent tge last 5 years...

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    I find that an interesting claim.

    Michael Moore, who became the face of the 9/11 conspiracy movement after Fahrenheit 9/11, was invited to the DNC and seated in the Presidential box next to President Carter. Can you name for me similar honoring by Republican leadership of the Birthers?
    I'd never heard of Michael Moore until the 911 movie. Plus I didn't say there were no high profile democrats engaging in craziness or all republicans, just few and many. Besides, I joined the GOP because I was attracted to their seeming desire to not stoop to the levels of democrats, take the moral high road, strive to do the right things, patriotism over party, etc.

    7 Birthers Speaking At The Republican Convention | ThinkProgress

    And btw, I googled the answer to the question you asked. I've also learned since 2008 the insanity include demonizing people who cite sources not considered republican friendly as immoral people by some.
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    Re: Would AP/IRS seem more serious if the right had not spent tge last 5 years...

    Quote Originally Posted by Smeagol View Post
    I'd never heard of Michael Moore until the 911 movie. Plus I didn't say there were no high profile democrats engaging in craziness or all republicans, just few and many. Besides, I joined the GOP because I was attracted to their seeming desire to not stoop to the levels of democrats, take the moral high road, strive to do the right things, patriotism over party, etc.

    7 Birthers Speaking At The Republican Convention | ThinkProgress
    did you read the document you linked?/ Of the 7 people they mention, ONE is actually a birther - Donald Trump. Who is no conservative, advocate for a single-payer healthcare system and Democrat donor, he.

    And btw, I googled the answer to the question you asked. I've also learned since 2008 the insanity include demonizing people who cite sources not considered republican friendly as immoral people by some.
    Ah. By Some. We live in a world where "some" call in false crime reports so that SWAT teams will be deployed to notable conservatives' homes, hoping for a tragic accident. I'd say "by some" isn't all that a good a measure.

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