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  • Israel. The UN created it for a reason

    23 31.51%
  • Palestine. It was their land.

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  • Israel, but the land the UN gave them when first made.

    15 20.55%
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    Israel and Palestine

    Which one should own the land?
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    Re: Israel and Palestine

    Quote Originally Posted by V.I. Lenin
    Which one should own the land?
    I voted Israel. People are welcome to provide other viewpoints.



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    The truth is that Palestine is no more real than Never-Never Land. The first time the name was used was in 70 A.D. when the Romans committed genocide against the Jews, smashed the Temple and declared the land of Israel would be no more. From then on, the Romans promised, it would be known as Palestine. The name was derived from the Philistines, a Goliathian people conquered by the Jews centuries earlier. It was a way for the Romans to add insult to injury. They also tried to change the name of Jerusalem to Aelia Capitolina, but that had even less staying power.

    Palestine has never existed -- before or since -- as an autonomous entity. It was ruled alternately by Rome, by Islamic and Christian crusaders, by the Ottoman Empire and, briefly, by the British after World War I. The British agreed to restore at least part of the land to the Jewish people as their homeland.

    There is no language known as Palestinian. There is no distinct Palestinian culture. There has never been a land known as Palestine governed by Palestinians. Palestinians are Arabs, indistinguishable from Jordanians (another recent invention), Syrians, Lebanese, Iraqis, etc. Keep in mind that the Arabs control 99.9 percent of the Middle East lands. Israel represents one-tenth of 1 percent of the landmass.

    But that's too much for the Arabs. They want it all. And that is ultimately what the fighting in Israel is about today. Greed. Pride. Envy. Covetousness. No matter how many land concessions the Israelis make, it will never be enough.

    What about Islam's holy sites? There are none in Jerusalem.

    Shocked? You should be. I don't expect you will ever hear this brutal truth from anyone else in the international media. It's just not politically correct.

    I know what you're going to say: "Farah, the Al Aqsa Mosque and the Dome of the Rock in Jerusalem represent Islam's third most holy sites."

    Not true. In fact, the Koran says nothing about Jerusalem. It mentions Mecca hundreds of times. It mentions Medina countless times. It never mentions Jerusalem. With good reason. There is no historical evidence to suggest Mohammed ever visited Jerusalem
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    Re: Israel and Palestine

    I would like them to split the land; there won't be a winning side unless the UN lets Israel go bonkers on Palestine.

    Israel can easily destroy Palestine but they want the peaceful way out. Remember what they did to the Egyptian Air-Force and the rest of the Middle-East?
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    Re: Israel and Palestine

    I voted other because I believe that there should be both an Israel and a Palestine, but not with the U.N. borders. I believe the borders should be as they were in 1967 with the exception that East Jerusalem be attached permanently to Israel.
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    Re: Israel and Palestine

    I voted other because I believe it shouldn't be up to the United States to get involved in the religious war over there. Let them figure it out amongst themselves.

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    Re: Israel and Palestine

    Quote Originally Posted by shuamort
    I voted other because I believe it shouldn't be up to the United States to get involved in the religious war over there. Let them figure it out amongst themselves.
    Who said anything about the United States being the one to get involved?
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    Re: Israel and Palestine

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai
    Who said anything about the United States being the one to get involved?
    I did. The US is one of Israel's biggest supporters and that is one of the reasons 9/11 happened.

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    Re: Israel and Palestine

    Quote Originally Posted by shuamort
    I did. The US is one of Israel's biggest supporters and that is one of the reasons 9/11 happened.
    One of many reasons, true. I voted other and I agree with Arch enemy.

    btw-if we don't help, we won't get an outcome we like.

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    Re: Israel and Palestine

    Quote Originally Posted by Arch Enemy
    I would like them to split the land; there won't be a winning side unless the UN lets Israel go bonkers on Palestine.

    Israel can easily destroy Palestine but they want the peaceful way out. Remember what they did to the Egyptian Air-Force and the rest of the Middle-East?
    The entire country is smaller in size than the State of New Jersey, and much of it is desert. What is there to split?

    Why haven't the wealthy Arab nations which surround Israel shown some mercy and compassion for the generations of those they call Palestinians instead of forcing them to live in horrendous conditions in the quest to force Israel into the sea?

    The answer is simple. It is a game and the miserable Arabs called Palestinians are clearly the pawns. Their lives are continually sacrificed in order to keep the pot boiling. If the folks in the Arab capitals who pull the strings wanted peace, they could order it to occur at 2 PM tomorrow, and it would.

    They always get what they want. However, peace is not what they want, is it?

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    Re: Israel and Palestine

    Historically hasn't land ownership been by sales, given,claimed, or won in conflict? The Jews were attacked and for punishment Arabs lost land. One should expect and accept consequences for one's actions.

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