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Thread: Are we witnessing the beginning of the end for obama?

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    Re: Are we witnessing the beginning of the end for obama?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    If he knew what they were doing? As of what is currently known, this issue had already been brought up before within the IRS and a direct order was given for it to cease. So why would it even make it up to Obama? And even if it did, why would it be more than a water cooler conversation?

    Adviser: Hey, did you hear what happened in the IRS?
    Obama: No, what?
    Adviser: Caught a few guys discriminating against right wing groups.
    Obama: Well, tell them to cut that **** out. Now, on to the healthcare bill how's that going?

    You're grasping at straws here buddy.
    The question in these situations is always the same, "What did he know, when did he know it".

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    Re: Are we witnessing the beginning of the end for obama?

    Na. Obama is gonna be fine...


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    Re: Are we witnessing the beginning of the end for obama?

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    The question in these situations is always the same, "What did he know, when did he know it".
    Bro, even if he knew, there's still little had to do about it. It's a matter that should have been handled by the IRS and for all intended purposes, it was being handled by the IRS.
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    Re: Are we witnessing the beginning of the end for obama?

    Quote Originally Posted by Amadeus View Post
    I will stake my presence on DP that Obama has nothing to do with the IRS scandal.
    Your unadulterated belief in and infatuation with obama is noted.

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    Re: Are we witnessing the beginning of the end for obama?

    Quote Originally Posted by Smeagol View Post
    If this has been closer to the end of the term I'd agree. 2016 is a long time from now and if the economy continues to improve it should be a slam dunk for another democrat in the White House in 2016.

    I do think Obama will not get much else done, but what's left anyway? My only worry is if any Supreme Court justices retire, which is a real possibly; I'm thinking Ginsberg. He did everything he wanted in the first term, namely universal healthcare and getting the pump primed on electric automotive technology, both of which I support in a RINO kinda way. �� I do think healthcare reform needs tweaking however, but Obamacare is a start.
    I think there will be a fresh face at the top of the ticket for the Democrats in 2016, not Clinton or Biden. I also do not think it will be a slam dunk. The Republicans did the Dems a favor last year in nominating Romney, but looking over the field, I guess they really didn't have much of a choice although they tried to find someone else. The GOP's best chances of unseating Obama decided to stay out of the race.

    I can think of 3 or 4 candidates for the GOP that could win. Remember in 2016 there will be no advantage of being an incumbent. That is if they throw their hat in and can get by the primaries.
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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    Re: Are we witnessing the beginning of the end for obama?

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    Thats fine and I agree with you but that is not what your previous post said. You said he has done nothing wrong which of course is impossible to know and proves your bias. With all the lies and deceit that he has been part of I think there is a very good chance he has indeed done something very wrong but I like you will require solid evidence.
    I said he has done nothing wrong, because there is no evidence to suggest that he has. That's not bias. Presuming that he probably has done something wrong, or there's a good chance he has done something IS bias.

    It's ludicrous to say I am biased toward Obama. I have said from the beginning that he was an unqualified empty suit, and people would regret the day they put him in office. I don't think he's a bad person; I think he's an overly ambitious person who had his eye on the WH from the beginning of his "career" in public service. So yeah, he has shown his inexperience, surrounded himself with inexperience, throw in a dozen global crises, the collapse of several ME governments, and various domestic/international ****storms that even an experienced leader would struggle with, and we end up with a mediocre president who is doing the best he can in a job that, according to his gray hair, he realized immediately was beyond him.

    So thanks, GOP, for giving us Mitt Romney as an alternative. Yeah... that was sarcasm.

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    Re: Are we witnessing the beginning of the end for obama?

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    Impeachment doesn't mean removal from office anyway, the Senate would vote on removal. President Clinton was impeached, but the Senate acquitted him. President Nixon quit because it was likely he would have been removed from office and lose the perks ex-presidents get.
    Nixon quit because he felt shame and was disgraced.

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    Re: Are we witnessing the beginning of the end for obama?

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    Your unadulterated belief in and infatuation with obama is noted.
    Nope. It's just that the more I look into the scandal, the more I understand it. I invite you to do the same.

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    Re: Are we witnessing the beginning of the end for obama?

    Quote Originally Posted by DiAnna View Post
    I said he has done nothing wrong, because there is no evidence to suggest that he has. That's not bias. Presuming that he probably has done something wrong, or there's a good chance he has done something IS bias.

    It's ludicrous to say I am biased toward Obama. I have said from the beginning that he was an unqualified empty suit, and people would regret the day they put him in office. I don't think he's a bad person; I think he's an overly ambitious person who had his eye on the WH from the beginning of his "career" in public service. So yeah, he has shown his inexperience, surrounded himself with inexperience, throw in a dozen global crises, the collapse of several ME governments, and various domestic/international ****storms that even an experienced leader would struggle with, and we end up with a mediocre president who is doing the best he can in a job that, according to his gray hair, he realized immediately was beyond him.

    So thanks, GOP, for giving us Mitt Romney as an alternative. Yeah... that was sarcasm.
    The bold part was not in your original post but your edit means I am getting through to you.

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    Re: Are we witnessing the beginning of the end for obama?

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    I think there will be a fresh face at the top of the ticket for the Democrats in 2016, not Clinton or Biden. I also do not think it will be a slam dunk. The Republicans did the Dems a favor last year in nominating Romney, but looking over the field, I guess they really didn't have much of a choice although they tried to find someone else. The GOP's best chances of unseating Obama decided to stay out of the race.

    I can think of 3 or 4 candidates for the GOP that could win. Remember in 2016 there will be no advantage of being an incumbent. That is if they throw their hat in and can get by the primaries.
    I have learned to listen to your possibilities. Will you start another blog for 2014 elections?

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