View Poll Results: What is the most egregious Obama scandal

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  • Benghazi (can someone explain the scandal here?)

    4 2.48%
  • IRS scrutinizing conservative political organizations

    18 11.18%
  • DOJ wiretapping AP reports

    16 9.94%
  • Other (what?)

    4 2.48%
  • None of the above. They are all Con BS

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Thread: Most egregious scandal

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    Re: Most egregious scandal

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    The border agent didn't die under Bush.
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    Re: Most egregious scandal

    if it turns out that groups on the other side weren't similarly scrutinized, the IRS is the biggie. ****, i want these "social welfare" groups scrutinized to the gills, and i still don't feel they should be tax exempt. however, if only conservative 501c4s are getting the business from the IRS while the liberal ones are enjoying smooth sailing, then that's a BIG problem.

    it would also be great to know if the practice of making the tax-exempt road harder for political enemies just began, or if it has been done before. i say shine a light on the whole mess as far back as we can. heads need to roll over that kind of policy.

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    Re: Most egregious scandal

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Is that what this was for, terrorism? To my knowledge that hasn't been established.
    Frankly, we don't know now, do we? So why call it a scandal before we know all of the facts?
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    Re: Most egregious scandal

    Benghazi. The Susan Rice coverup? Duh?

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    Re: Most egregious scandal

    Quote Originally Posted by Middleground View Post
    Frankly, we don't know now, do we? So why call it a scandal before we know all of the facts?
    Because scandal doesn't require proof to be scandal.

    scandal
    /ˈskandl/Noun
    1.An action or event regarded as morally or legally wrong and causing general public outrage: "a bribery scandal".
    2.The outrage or anger caused by such an action or event.
    Btw upsideguy, politically biased poll - you should goto work for the dem polling orgs, you'd fit right in.

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    Re: Most egregious scandal

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Because scandal doesn't require proof to be scandal.
    Maybe in your world. Me, I like facts and tend to not knee jerk.
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    Re: Most egregious scandal

    Quote Originally Posted by upsideguy View Post
    So I have long mocked the Cons for trying to make Obama scandals where there are none. Now, you may have one or two, but you can't have them all... so, lets pick one. Which of the current scandals has the most traction (will damage Obama's reputation the most)? Is it also the one that offends you the most?
    I'm not offended by any of them. I became interested in politics watching the Democratic and Republican conventions on TV back in 1956 and have seen much, much worse. Probably the one with the most traction is the AP phone taps. The media do not like things that happen to one of their own. Although I view this one the most legitimate. I hate to see national security classified information divulged or leaked with out going through its proper procedure of review and declassification.

    Probably the one I am most curious about is the talking points. If the CIA was willing to have AQ organization listed in them and said it was a terrorist attack from the get go, why no go with it. CIA is much more up on national security and intel assets than State which through out history has been ver lax on all forms of security. But this is curiousness and I have no desire at the point and time to see any heads roll.

    On the IRS, I wonder how the president in a speech made last year calling the tea party an undemocratic organization may have played in some of the IRS agents targeting that group. Perhaps to please their boss? Everyone hates the IRS, they have way too much power over everyone. Perhaps it is time for both parties to work together and rein them in some and this scandal just might provide that opperturnity.
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    Re: Most egregious scandal

    Quote Originally Posted by upsideguy View Post
    Actually, you can't. Sorry, but its a bit politically naive to think that you can successfully prosecute 3 scandals at once as they compete with each other for media time and only act to drown one another out. You need media cycles to make anything stick.

    Second, your suggesting they have equal value suggests to me the only "scandal" to you is that Obama is in office. You are really only happy that he is in the hot seat and not particularly bothered by any of the so-called scandals. If you were bothered, one would bother you more than others.
    Scoundrels "prosecute" scandals, which implies prevarication and slander. Gentlemen, such as myself, may prosecute or call for the prosecution of crimes, but scandals are merely a characterization of information. In other words, the facts, or at least the perception of what are believed to be facts create a proper scandal.

    Obama is facing scandals because the detestable actions of his Administration are being exposed.
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    Re: Most egregious scandal

    Quote Originally Posted by Middleground View Post
    Maybe in your world. Me, I like facts and tend to not knee jerk.
    Did you even bother to read the definition of the word? Scandal isn't about fact as much as about perception.

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    Re: Most egregious scandal

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    The border agent didn't die under Bush.
    No....but the program was an idea of the Justice Department under the Bush Administration. Something that a lot of you people fail to every recognize. True...the program was continued under Obama and I think it was a stupid program. But if you are going to pass blame you cannot bifurcate the facts.
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