View Poll Results: What is the most egregious Obama scandal

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  • Benghazi (can someone explain the scandal here?)

    4 2.48%
  • IRS scrutinizing conservative political organizations

    18 11.18%
  • DOJ wiretapping AP reports

    16 9.94%
  • Other (what?)

    4 2.48%
  • None of the above. They are all Con BS

    119 73.91%
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    Re: Most egregious scandal

    Quote Originally Posted by AreteCourage View Post
    Wiretapping the Associated Press is the worst among those listed. That completely violated the 1st Amendment. More heads should roll, and we should DEMAND answers here. The Patriot Act set precedent for these kinds of actions. People were all for it after 9/11, but they failed to see the potential consequences. We are seeing on of those consequences now.

    We shouldn't be distracted by Benghazi. We should concentrate on the wiretaps and fraud from the IRS.
    Thing is, the wiretapping is NOT new news. Fact is, it's been going on for some time now. So where was the outrage during the Bush era, when they chaged the laws to allow unwarrented tapping all in the name of fighting terrorism!11!!!!
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    Re: Most egregious scandal

    The IRS bothers me most of all.


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    Re: Most egregious scandal

    Either the IRS or the AP tapping.
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    Re: Most egregious scandal

    Quote Originally Posted by upsideguy View Post
    Actually, you can't. Sorry, but its a bit politically naive to think that you can successfully prosecute 3 scandals at once as they compete with each other for media time and only act to drown one another out. You need media cycles to make anything stick.

    Second, your suggesting they have equal value suggests to me the only "scandal" to you is that Obama is in office. You are really only happy that he is in the hot seat and not particularly bothered by any of the so-called scandals. If you were bothered, one would bother you more than others.
    To you its only the worst if it sticks? If there is traction? The AP story will likely get the most traction because it effects the media who'd cover it, not because its the worst.

    We can have them all, they will all hurt the Democrats. Fast and Furious was the worst to me and had the least traction.
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    Re: Most egregious scandal

    The scandle of Bengazi is two fold:

    1. An American embassy, embassy staff and ambassador was under a protracted deadly military attack. Special forces were prepared to quickly arrive on the scene and were repeatedly ordered to neither defend the embassy and staff and to not engage the attackers.

    2. The White House repeatedly lied about happened to the American public and Congress.

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    Re: Most egregious scandal

    Quote Originally Posted by Josie View Post
    You forgot Fast and Furious.
    Fast and Furious was a GWB program....but you probably don't realize that.
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    Re: Most egregious scandal

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Fast and Furious was a GWB program....but you probably don't realize that.



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    Re: Most egregious scandal

    Quote Originally Posted by Jredbaron96 View Post
    Either the IRS or the AP tapping.
    I know the Captain of a ship is ultimately responsible for the action of the people under his command but IMHO its obvious Obama had no idea what the IRS was doing at the Cincinnati office to conservative non-profits.

    I see the AP issue as a War on Terror investigation. The rules were re-written after 9/11. I don't like invasions of privacy but this is not personal privacy being violated but the privacy of an organization hopefully with the intent to save American lives. Maybe we need to retire the Patriot Act and other post 9/11 intrusions by government under a protection of the public justification.

    Because the conservative media has blown so much of their credibility in nothing more than their desire to cause President Obama to fail often over the most ridiculous issues or double standards, at this point its nearly impossible for me to see any criticism of him as nothing more than yet another right-wing partisan witch-hunt that I pay little attention to.
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    Re: Most egregious scandal

    Quote Originally Posted by Smeagol View Post
    I know the Captain of a ship is ultimately responsible for the action of the people under his command but IMHO its obvious Obama had no idea what the IRS was doing at the Cincinnati office to conservative non-profits.
    I mean, he deserves plenty blame, but I don't think he should be the main recipient. I can't hold the man accountable for the action of every person in the Federal Government.

    I see the AP issue as a War on Terror investigation. The rules were re-written after 9/11. I don't like invasions of privacy but this is not personal privacy being violated but the privacy of an organization hopefully with the intent to save American lives. Maybe we need to retire the Patriot Act and other post 9/11 intrusions by government under a protection of the public justification.
    I just avoid all these 'scandals' early on because I know the most talked about points will be the ones that will most likely be refuted later on. I'll bide my time before making my opinion.
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    Re: Most egregious scandal

    Quote Originally Posted by Middleground View Post
    Thing is, the wiretapping is NOT new news. Fact is, it's been going on for some time now. So where was the outrage during the Bush era, when they chaged the laws to allow unwarrented tapping all in the name of fighting terrorism!11!!!!
    Is that what this was for, terrorism? To my knowledge that hasn't been established.
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