View Poll Results: Is Marco Rubio a Natural Born Citizen?

Voters
27. You may not vote on this poll
  • Yes, the "Law of Nations" is not actually law

    13 48.15%
  • No, Rubio and Obama are both invalid

    5 18.52%
  • Maybe or Other (explain yourself)

    3 11.11%
  • Shiitake Mushrooms

    6 22.22%
Page 1 of 5 123 ... LastLast
Results 1 to 10 of 47

Thread: Is Marco Rubio a Natural Born Citizen?

  1. #1
    Mod Conspiracy Theorist
    rocket88's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2011
    Location
    A very blue state
    Last Seen
    Yesterday @ 08:42 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    31,191

    Is Marco Rubio a Natural Born Citizen?



    Both parents must be the citizens of, and the birth must take place in the concerned country, assuming that the citizenship inherited by this child and the loyalty are never changed ever after.



    This definition is in Vattel's "Law of Nations." Since that was just cited by a birther about Obama, it would apply to Marco Rubio as well, correct?

    Rubio was born in 1971. His parents became citizens in 1975. Therefore, Marco Rubio could not be a Natural Born Citizen according to this definition as his parents were not US citizens at the time of his birth.

    So is it a BS citation for both, or does it mean that Marco Rubio is not eligible to be President? My opinion, for the record, is that it's an invalid citation and Rubio could become President, as Obama did.

    Last edited by rocket88; 05-14-13 at 05:10 PM.


    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    This issue has been plowed more times than Paris Hilton.
    Quote Originally Posted by Oborosen View Post
    Too bad we have to observe human rights.

  2. #2
    Sage
    sangha's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2011
    Location
    Lower Hudson Valley, NY
    Last Seen
    09-17-17 @ 05:48 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    59,990

    Re: Is Marco Rubio a Natural Born Citizen?

    He's a Natural Born Idiot
    Quote Originally Posted by matchlight View Post
    Justice Thomas' opinions consistently contain precise, detailed constitutional analyses.
    Quote Originally Posted by jaeger19 View Post
    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

  3. #3
    Sage
    clownboy's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2012
    Location
    Oregon
    Last Seen
    08-17-16 @ 10:31 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Other
    Posts
    26,087

    Re: Is Marco Rubio a Natural Born Citizen?

    Kick the can down the road option. We never adequately defined the requirement for the modern era. The need for a clear definition going forward was highlighted a few years ago and we've sat on our thumbs in the interim. No surprise and folks won't even get off their asses for a solution until we're dead in the middle of needing it (and it will be too late to do anything about it for the current situation). Then after the election folks will go back to forgetting about it. Just like our national voting system.

  4. #4
    On Vacation
    joko104's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2009
    Last Seen
    12-16-17 @ 04:30 AM
    Lean
    Undisclosed
    Posts
    31,569
    Blog Entries
    2

    Re: Is Marco Rubio a Natural Born Citizen?

    If he was born in the USA he is an American citizen and may be president.

    But, hey, let's hear the Democrat birthers rage

  5. #5
    Global Moderator
    Moderator

    Zyphlin's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2005
    Location
    NoMoAuchie
    Last Seen
    @
    Gender
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    47,998

    Re: Is Marco Rubio a Natural Born Citizen?

    Clearly the only reason this thread exists is because he's a brown skinned man with a foreign name. This kind of thing would never be asked if he was a white guy!



    The Law of Nations is not US Law

  6. #6
    Sage
    Fisher's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2012
    Last Seen
    12-06-13 @ 02:44 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Very Liberal
    Posts
    17,002

    Re: Is Marco Rubio a Natural Born Citizen?

    The intent of the "natural born citizen" thing in the Constitution stems from prior efforts to sell the kingship of the colonies to the Prussians after the revolution.

  7. #7
    Sage


    Join Date
    Feb 2013
    Location
    SW Virginia
    Last Seen
    Yesterday @ 05:19 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Conservative
    Posts
    18,267

    Re: Is Marco Rubio a Natural Born Citizen?

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    This definition is in Vattel's "Law of Nations." Since that was just cited by a birther about Obama, it would apply to Marco Rubio as well, correct?

    Rubio was born in 1971. His parents became citizens in 1975. Therefore, Marco Rubio could not be a Natural Born Citizen according to this definition as his parents were not US citizens at the time of his birth.

    So is it a BS citation for both, or does it mean that Marco Rubio is not eligible to be President? My opinion, for the record, is that it's an invalid citation and Rubio could become President, as Obama did.

    [/I][/COLOR]
    Law of Nations? What's wrong with the Law of the Pack? As long as we're picking and choosing, anyway...

  8. #8
    Mod Conspiracy Theorist
    rocket88's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2011
    Location
    A very blue state
    Last Seen
    Yesterday @ 08:42 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    31,191

    Re: Is Marco Rubio a Natural Born Citizen?

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    If he was born in the USA he is an American citizen and may be president.

    But, hey, let's hear the Democrat birthers rage
    Which is my opinion.


    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    This issue has been plowed more times than Paris Hilton.
    Quote Originally Posted by Oborosen View Post
    Too bad we have to observe human rights.

  9. #9
    Professor

    Join Date
    Jan 2013
    Location
    Ft.Wayne In
    Last Seen
    12-15-17 @ 06:23 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Conservative
    Posts
    1,307

    Re: Is Marco Rubio a Natural Born Citizen?

    Quote Originally Posted by humbolt View Post
    Law of Nations? What's wrong with the Law of the Pack? As long as we're picking and choosing, anyway...
    Thats when I fell for Leader of the Pack !!

  10. #10
    Mod Conspiracy Theorist
    rocket88's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2011
    Location
    A very blue state
    Last Seen
    Yesterday @ 08:42 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    31,191

    Re: Is Marco Rubio a Natural Born Citizen?

    Quote Originally Posted by penn1954 View Post
    Thats when I fell for Leader of the Pack !!
    So basically anybody you met at the candy store is eligible?


    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    This issue has been plowed more times than Paris Hilton.
    Quote Originally Posted by Oborosen View Post
    Too bad we have to observe human rights.

Page 1 of 5 123 ... LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •