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Angelina Jolie Reveals She Had Preventative Double Mastectomy

Would you do what Angie did?

  • No f'n way - that's crazy.

    Votes: 5 20.8%
  • Absolutely, makes perfect sense to me.

    Votes: 12 50.0%
  • I'm in morning for Angie's natural boobs...

    Votes: 4 16.7%
  • other...please explain

    Votes: 3 12.5%

  • Total voters
    24
Obviously - she's allowed to do whatever she wants....but I think it's pretty nutty.
I don't think having a elective mastectomy to minimise a very significant risk of cancer is any more "nutty" than avoiding hospital treatment to minimise a comparatively small risk of hospital acquired infection. Nothing personal, but I don't think you're addressing the question rationally.
 
I don't think having a elective mastectomy to minimise a very significant risk of cancer is any more "nutty" than avoiding hospital treatment to minimise a comparatively small risk of hospital acquired infection. Nothing personal, but I don't think you're addressing the question rationally.

I guess some people think that breasts should be the most important thing in one's life. :shrug: Kind of silly and shallow if you ask me.

Not to mention, if she didn't tell, Dragonfly would have never even realized that she got fakies. :lol:
 
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Wow.... she did not have cancer, she simply had a

So she underwent major surgery to prevent something that may or may not have been an issue for her.

That seems highly CRAZY to me.

Would you undergo something that traumatic to prevent the possibility of getting cancer?

Detected early enough aren't most breast cancer cases survivable?

It is definitely her decision to make, presumably on the advice of her doctor and hopefully a few other specialists along the way. Hard to be too judgemental when you don't know the facts and you're relying on a gossip column.

That said, I'm a man in my late 50's and it kind of hits home with the old prostate cancer screening and preventative surgery that was quite prevalent in the last decade and has now started to come into question. It's believed now that most men who don't have family histories of prostate cancer may be unnecessarily going under the knife based on early screening and detection. It seems to be understood that most men will have prostate cancer sometime late in life but men seldom die from prostate cancer because something else gets them before the prostate cancer can. Why risk your later years with possible incontinence, impotence, and other side affects from prostate cancer when the treatment is likely worse than the disease?

We don't know Ms Jolie's family history, other than the fact her dad seems to be crazy, so I'm willing to bet if she did indeed have the surgery there must be some serious family history that caused her to act. I wish her well going forward.
 

Millions of people have surgery every day. And you just provided a handful of cases, some of them not even in the US. Also, OR's and general admissions don't even have the same entrance for exactly this reason.

Your anecdotes don't disprove the general truth that surgery on not-very-structurally-important body parts is fairly low-risk. The biggest risk is actually the anesthesia. Infection is pretty far down the list.

I'm sure I could find a handful of articles of people dying of scarlet fever in hospitals. Doesn't make it a legit enough concern to avoid preventing yourself from getting cancer.

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Down with car dealerships and baby changing tables?
 
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Wow.... she did not have cancer, she simply had a

So she underwent major surgery to prevent something that may or may not have been an issue for her.

That seems highly CRAZY to me.

Would you undergo something that traumatic to prevent the possibility of getting cancer?

Detected early enough aren't most breast cancer cases survivable?

That's a rational decision since some of these mutations basically guarantee you will get certain kinds of cancers. If she waits to get breast cancer, she probably has to get the bilateral done at that point anyway, and then if it is an aggressive form of cancer it may have already spread to a lymph node and then all bets are off. My sister and mom both have the BRCA2 mutation and got cancer in their early thirties and both went through/are going through hell to stay alive.
 
Let's put it this way. It's more likely than not that you will. Especially with the type she has. She says her risk was actually 87% with her genetic factors.


Hereditary Breast Ovarian Cancer Syndrome (BRCA1 / BRCA2) - Information About Cancer - Stanford Cancer Center - Stanford Medicine

You wanna roll those dice?

And here's the thing. They're just tits. Sacks of fat. They don't matter all that much.

If that were me, it sure as hell ain't worth resigning myself to probably winding up with cancer in middle age.



87% chance? Okay, now it makes sense.

Cancer is aweful stuff.
 
I'll tell you exactly why you put yourself through the surgery.

I've had exactly the same surgery twice. It's called a pelvic laparoscopy.

The first time, I had it while I was ill and weak. I had a gigantic ovarian cyst that had to be removed. Recovery was slow and painful (relatively speaking).

The second time (keep in mind, I had scar tissue at this point), I had it electively while healthy. I was feeling fine the very same day and I healed twice as fast.

That's why you do the surgery when you're still healthy. Especially if you damn well know you're probably going to wind up sick if you don't.

I'm sorry, but I think sitting around waiting to get cancer is ridiculous. They're just boobs.

Keep in mind, not ALL types of breast cancer have a good survival rate. Some of them are quite grim.

And even if you manage to luck out and get a cancer that's easier to treat, your chance of survival is STILL more than 10% lower than it would have been if you'd had the surgery first.

I don't get why someone would risk that over boobs.



Yeah I get that. My best bud's wife had breast cancer, had a mastectomy in her late 30's. A decade later it came back with a vengeance, they couldn't fight it down and it killed her. He was just destroyed by it, because they had a storybook-romance marriage for nearly 20 years... I spent most of a year putting him back together from the pieces.

If she'd known she probably would have done it too. If you don't get cancer the first time, you dont have to worry about it coming back.
 
Jolie was told she had an 87% probability of getting breast cancer, potentially in the next ten years since her mother died in her mid-fifties. Jolie looked at her children and her husband, and decided to exchange that for a 95% probability that she would live 20, 30, 40 more years with the people she loved.

Duh.

She was intelligent and courageous, especially by going public.

For those males who are going gaga over this (on another thread about this, men were positively hysterical, lol), would you view it differently if it was your wife/loved one who had to choose between a nearly 90% probability of an exceptionally lethal type of breast cancer, or a 95% probability of spending decades and decades more with you? Keep in mind, boobs are not penises, and they are not testicles. They can be, well, replaced. :)
 
If I had a family history of it, I would certainly consider it.

I don't, thank God.
 
This thread is so much better than the other one. Good job on the rationality, guys.
 
I guess she missed the CNN Medicine article a few years back of research that was done that women who perform fellatio at least 3 times a week and swallow have a almost zero incident of breast cancer. Maybe she should of tried that first.

Oh, wait, the article was shown to be a fake, oh, well, still think she should of given that a try first.
 
I guess she missed the CNN Medicine article a few years back of research that was done that women who perform fellatio at least 3 times a week and swallow have a almost zero incident of breast cancer. Maybe she should of tried that first.

Oh, wait, the article was shown to be a fake, oh, well, still think she should of given that a try first.

Maybe she did. :shrug: You'll have to ask Brad.
 
It can't be an easy decision to make, especially someone in a position like Angelina Jolie.
I don't know. Considering she got the new Cohesive Gel type for replacement, they will never sag. I'll bet she started sagging...
 
I don't know. Considering she got the new Cohesive Gel type for replacement, they will never sag. I'll bet she started sagging...

Complete ignorance. For one thing, no reputable surgeon would perform such a surgery without good cause.
 
Complete ignorance. For one thing, no reputable surgeon would perform such a surgery without good cause.
I'm not saying she didn't have a valid medical reason. I'm only pointing out it probably wasn't a hard decision since modern breast implants are as good as they are now.
 
I'm not saying she didn't have a valid medical reason. I'm only pointing out it probably wasn't a hard decision since modern breast implants are as good as they are now.

I'm quite sure it was still a difficult decision. Breast implants take maintenance and can have their own complications.
 
I'm quite sure it was still a difficult decision. Breast implants take maintenance and can have their own complications.
But easier than if only saline was available I bet.

Saline implants suck.
 
But easier than if only saline was available I bet.

Saline implants suck.

Saline is actually the safest way to go. I find it strange that they felt the need to mention the part I bolded. Interesting. I've heard of women with ruptured silicone breast implants that have had some serious health issues.

Breast implants: Saline vs. silicone - MayoClinic.com

Ruptured silicone implant
If a silicone breast implant ruptures, you might not notice right away — or ever — because any free silicone tends to remain trapped in the fibrous tissue (capsule) that forms around the implant. This is known as a silent rupture.

Leaking silicone gel isn't thought to cause systemic or long-term health problems — such as breast cancer, reproductive problems or connective tissue disease, such as rheumatoid arthritis. Still, a ruptured silicone breast implant might eventually cause breast pain or changes in the contour or shape of the breast.

If this happens, your doctor will likely recommend surgical removal. If you wish, a new implant can usually be inserted at the same time.

If an MRI scan detects an implant rupture but you don't have any signs or symptoms, it might be up to you and your doctor to weigh the risks and benefits of keeping the implant in place or having it removed.
 
Saline is actually the safest way to go. I find it strange that they felt the need to mention the part I bolded. Interesting. I've heard of women with ruptured silicone breast implants that have had some serious health issues.

Breast implants: Saline vs. silicone - MayoClinic.com

Ruptured silicone implant
If a silicone breast implant ruptures, you might not notice right away — or ever — because any free silicone tends to remain trapped in the fibrous tissue (capsule) that forms around the implant. This is known as a silent rupture.

Leaking silicone gel isn't thought to cause systemic or long-term health problems — such as breast cancer, reproductive problems or connective tissue disease, such as rheumatoid arthritis. Still, a ruptured silicone breast implant might eventually cause breast pain or changes in the contour or shape of the breast.

If this happens, your doctor will likely recommend surgical removal. If you wish, a new implant can usually be inserted at the same time.

If an MRI scan detects an implant rupture but you don't have any signs or symptoms, it might be up to you and your doctor to weigh the risks and benefits of keeping the implant in place or having it removed.
You aren't teaching me anything new, and these new cohesive gel implants are not the silicone type you mention.
 
You aren't teaching me anything new, and these new cohesive gel implants are not the silicone type you mention.

Yes, they still offer silicone filled breast implants.
 
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Wow.... she did not have cancer, she simply had a

So she underwent major surgery to prevent something that may or may not have been an issue for her.

That seems highly CRAZY to me.

Would you undergo something that traumatic to prevent the possibility of getting cancer?

Detected early enough aren't most breast cancer cases survivable?

What does this have to do with politics?
 
What does this have to do with politics?

Hmmm. Good point. :lol: This would probably be better in a health forum or the off-topic discussion forum.
 
Angelina Jolie may not have boobs, be she sure has balls.
 
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