View Poll Results: What does "sociail justice" mean to you?

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  • Equality

    15 23.08%
  • Solidarity

    7 10.77%
  • Wealth redistribution

    23 35.38%
  • Socialism

    20 30.77%
  • Justice

    19 29.23%
  • Unjustice

    14 21.54%
  • Good

    9 13.85%
  • Evil

    10 15.38%
  • Prosperity

    7 10.77%
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    18 27.69%
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Thread: Social justice

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    Social justice

    Hi

    I was thinking about "social justice" and wondered what it means to you when you hear the term. Please, explain.

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    Re: Social justice

    when I use the term I'm refering to the Judeo-Christian concept of the term, Justice in Hebrew mishpat and tsedaqah, zedaqaht refers to obligatory charity, charity meaning not just giving, but you're attitude toward others, Misphat refers to an obligation to do whatever is necessary to increase the quality of a person’s welfare Justice, and in Christian thought Agape, is the thought of universal and principled love, in the early church this was materialized in communal economic structure.

    Social Justice to me means treating humans as ends in themselves, not means to an ends, in the sence that society is about the wellbeing for everyone in society, social justice is society doing it's job as a society, which is making maximizing the wellbeing of everyone, and giving everyone the opportunity to maximize their own wellbeing.

    http://www.debatepolitics.com/religi...l-justice.html

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    Re: Social justice

    From a religious point of view, I would say that "Social Justice" has come too much to mean the encouragement of others to break the 10th Commandment so that you may break the first by elevating yourself.

    From a political point of view, much the same - it is the encouragement of resentment an greed in order to justify taking from some to give to others.

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    Re: Social justice

    Been a while since I took ethics, all the dusty names and dates have long since been overwritten by booze and video games.

    If pressed for a response, I'd mumble something about liberalism and preventing people from dying of homelessness, starvation and easily treated diseases.

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    Re: Social justice

    Quote Originally Posted by RGacky3 View Post
    obligatory charity
    Don't these two contradict each other? How could charity be obligatory?

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    Re: Social justice

    Quote Originally Posted by Canell View Post
    Don't these two contradict each other? How could charity be obligatory?
    Depends on your view on what charity is, I use the term in the biblical way, i.e. long-kindness, and it's obligatory because God demands that society be set up that way, so take the gleaning laws, the farmers land did not belong to him, it was Gods land, and God decided that part of the produce belongs to the poor, this was part of the foundation of society.

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    Re: Social justice

    In most historical instances, "social justice" is just the plain old injustice in dire need of a decent pseudonym.
    Social justice-guillotine-jpg

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    Re: Social justice

    The phrase 'social justice' has been tainted by those who feel justified in demanding from others what they have not earned for themselves.

    What it USED TO mean, IMO, was voluntarily helping those who are desperately trying to improve their position by the sweat of their brow, and those who have found an inpenetrable wall in their path that they need help climbing over.
    Building block or stumbling block.... choose.

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    Re: Social justice

    Quote Originally Posted by RGacky3 View Post
    OK, but can we stick to the secular meaning of "social justice", please. If possible, of course. Thanks.

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    Re: Social justice

    Quote Originally Posted by Canell View Post
    OK, but can we stick to the secular meaning of "social justice", please. If possible, of course. Thanks.
    I don't think you can take the word away from it's religious roots ...

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