View Poll Results: What does "sociail justice" mean to you?

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  • Equality

    15 23.08%
  • Solidarity

    7 10.77%
  • Wealth redistribution

    23 35.38%
  • Socialism

    20 30.77%
  • Justice

    19 29.23%
  • Unjustice

    14 21.54%
  • Good

    9 13.85%
  • Evil

    10 15.38%
  • Prosperity

    7 10.77%
  • Other

    18 27.69%
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Thread: Social justice

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    Re: Social justice

    Quote Originally Posted by GottaGo View Post
    The phrase 'social justice' has been tainted by those who feel justified in demanding from others what they have not earned for themselves.

    What it USED TO mean, IMO, was voluntarily helping those who are desperately trying to improve their position by the sweat of their brow, and those who have found an inpenetrable wall in their path that they need help climbing over.
    It never meant philanthropy ....

    Also demanding form others waht they have not earned for themselves is the basis of capitalism, they demand the fruits of other people's labor on the basis of their control of land and capital.

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    Re: Social justice

    Quote Originally Posted by RGacky3 View Post
    It never meant philanthropy ....

    Also demanding form others waht they have not earned for themselves is the basis of capitalism, they demand the fruits of other people's labor on the basis of their control of land and capital.
    The giving of personal time and knowledge to help others achieve their goals is a step to Social Justice. Giving people who otherwise might not have the opportunity to reach levels of equality, that step forward.

    No, demanding from others what they have not earned for themselves has nothing to do with capitalism. Capitalism provides goods or services at a price, which only you can deem worthy of what price they ask.

    Those who believe they have a right to something they have not earned, nor are willing to contribute to the societal pool, but only take from it, are the ones who have tainted the phrase.
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    Re: Social justice

    Quote Originally Posted by RGacky3 View Post
    I don't think you can take the word away from it's religious roots ...
    Why not? If we can take man away from religion, why not do the same with a term?

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    Re: Social justice

    Quote Originally Posted by GottaGo View Post
    The giving of personal time and knowledge to help others achieve their goals is a step to Social Justice. Giving people who otherwise might not have the opportunity to reach levels of equality, that step forward.

    No, demanding from others what they have not earned for themselves has nothing to do with capitalism. Capitalism provides goods or services at a price, which only you can deem worthy of what price they ask.

    Those who believe they have a right to something they have not earned, nor are willing to contribute to the societal pool, but only take from it, are the ones who have tainted the phrase.
    SOcial justice ... is by definition, not an individual endevor, it's the way society is set up ...

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    Re: Social justice

    Quote Originally Posted by Canell View Post
    Hi

    I was thinking about "social justice" and wondered what it means to you when you hear the term. Please, explain.
    You left out "legally sanctioned theft!"
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    Re: Social justice

    Quote Originally Posted by Canell View Post
    Why not? If we can take man away from religion, why not do the same with a term?
    Because it is a religious term .... if you want to understand the concept you have to understand it's foundation, which in this case, is the judeo-christian framework.

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    Re: Social justice

    Quote Originally Posted by Canell View Post
    Don't these two contradict each other? How could charity be obligatory?
    We could ask the IRS. They know everything.

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    Re: Social justice

    If taxation is theft, then privitization is theft as well ...

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    Re: Social justice

    Quote Originally Posted by RGacky3 View Post
    Because it is a religious term .... if you want to understand the concept you have to understand it's foundation, which in this case, is the judeo-christian framework.
    So, we end up with "God is the source of all morality" and social justice being an attempt to repair flawed human nature, created by that same God?

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    Re: Social justice

    Quote Originally Posted by Canell View Post
    So, we end up with "God is the source of all morality" and social justice being an attempt to repair flawed human nature, created by that same God?
    No, Social justice can be secular, but the term has been historically used religiously, and you can't really explain it without talking about Christian concepts like Universalism.

    I don't think social justice is an attempt to repair flawed human nature, it's a way to live with our flawed human nature together while trying to boost and incentives our good qualities and our humanity, and our solidarity (I voted solidarity).

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