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    Re: Sarah Palin or Joe Biden, Who's Dumber?

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    Josie's thread gave me the idea for this one. It's a little funny, to me, when someone says Sarah Palin's dumb because of things she's said but Biden seems to get a complete pass on stupid **** he says all the time (and yes, I know, my partisan bias is showing).

    So, who do you think is dumber?

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    Sarah
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    Both are equally dumb
    Neither are dumb

    I think that should cover it. Adding poll now.
    Neither is dumb, though I'm confident that the Vice President is more intelligent. Sarah Palin obviously suffers from severe knowledge gaps when it comes to foreign policy and some other fields, but it doesn't make her an idiot. Remove the spotlight of the 2008 Presidential campaign and go back to her term as governor, her press conferences, and stump speeches and you'll see someone who you may disagree with but has a fairly typical grasp for the issues facing her state and associated policy solutions. She isn't dumb, she's just not brilliant and her reliance on conservative platitudes is grating.

    We have a populist tendency and desire to see all politicians we don't like (and even some that we do) as less intelligent than us. It's a common theme in our political history and there are long explanations for why it exists. The fact of the matter is that it is rarely true. Most members of our political class are relatively intelligent and well educated individuals. For example, despite what you may think you are probably not smarter than George Bush or Barack Obama.

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    Re: Sarah Palin or Joe Biden, Who's Dumber?

    Sarah Palin without a doubt. Joe misspeaks sometimes but Palin is a ****ing moron.


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    Re: Sarah Palin or Joe Biden, Who's Dumber?

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    Josie's thread gave me the idea for this one. It's a little funny, to me, when someone says Sarah Palin's dumb because of things she's said but Biden seems to get a complete pass on stupid **** he says all the time (and yes, I know, my partisan bias is showing).

    So, who do you think is dumber?

    Choices will be;
    Sarah
    Joe
    Both are equally dumb
    Neither are dumb

    I think that should cover it. Adding poll now.
    its not close

    Biden is far less intellectually gifted

    he has had so many advantages over her

    he went to law school where he graduated 69th in a class of 67

    he has had almost 40 years in DC where he could learn how to sound important

    Palin had none of that so she comes off as "less intelligent"

    but when you strip away the facade

    Biden's a diptard

    Palin is above average



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    Re: Sarah Palin or Joe Biden, Who's Dumber?

    Biden.

    Parasailing has made substantial money off her dumb comments. You don't climb the ladder of success if you're really dumb.

    I believe Palin is stupid, but not so stupid as to fail to realize there's money to be made harvesting the idiots of the Republican Party. Biden has not done the same for the Democrats. Therefore Parasailing is smarter than Biden.
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    Re: Sarah Palin or Joe Biden, Who's Dumber?

    I think Sarah's dumber just because she says dumb **** and makes dumb arguments using dumb reasoning. Biden - well he just has a classic case of foot in mouth.
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    Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

    All the same, it's nonsense. To paraphrase Vince Lombardi, show me a political loser, and I'll show you a loser.
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    Re: Sarah Palin or Joe Biden, Who's Dumber?

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    I think Sarah's dumber just because she says dumb **** and makes dumb arguments using dumb reasoning. Biden - well he just has a classic case of foot in mouth.
    Well sure, when Biden said conservatives were looking to put black people "back in chains", that was sure a well reasoned argument. Just outta curiosity are there any liberals you think are dumb?

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    Re: Sarah Palin or Joe Biden, Who's Dumber?

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    Well sure, when Biden said conservatives were looking to put black people "back in chains", that was sure a well reasoned argument.
    And the straw men keep comin'

    And the audience he was giving that speech to wasn't even predominantly black. There were many blacks present, sure, but the reporting skewed it to make it sound like he was addressing black people specifically. I'm not sure there's enough evidence to actually draw that conclusion. Looks to me like he just went a little bit overboard with an economic metaphor.

    Just outta curiosity are there any liberals you think are dumb?
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    Nobody who wins a war indulges in a bifurcated definition of victory. War is a political act; victory and defeat have meaning only in political terms. A country incapable of achieving its political objectives at an acceptable cost is losing the war, regardless of battlefield events.

    Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

    All the same, it's nonsense. To paraphrase Vince Lombardi, show me a political loser, and I'll show you a loser.
    - Colonel Paul Yingling

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    Re: Sarah Palin or Joe Biden, Who's Dumber?

    I wouldn't describe either of them as truly dumb. Maybe compared to the average politician, but not to the average person. I also think both of them come off in their speeches and interviews as less intelligent than they truly are.
    There should be Instant Runoff Voting

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    Re: Sarah Palin or Joe Biden, Who's Dumber?

    Is there really a question here ...?

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    Re: Sarah Palin or Joe Biden, Who's Dumber?

    hmmm

    well ive talked about things like this before.

    and since we are just comparing the two and using the word dumb and not going into depth its palin by a mile.

    Im basing this of the national stage. On the national stage she is a complete and utter bipartisan, hyperbolic, inane, rhetoric filled windbag moron. LOL
    The vast majority of reps i know couldnt vote for McCain because of her, they like the energy and fire but not her "in the white house"

    Now with that being said, in reality she is by no means "dumb" at all. In many ways im sure she is smarter than me and everyone on this board but hers strengths in politics end at the state level and she is best at rallying on a national level but not leading at all.

    Now Biden, he as also made some stupid comments but on a national level he is way above and out of palins league. He does have some horrible foot-in-mouth disease but he can still survive on the national level and I dont know anybody that couldnt/wouldnt vote for Obama because of Biden. (not saying they dont exist just basing it off of me and my experience/opinion)

    And for me its the same way, while im not found of joe in the white house and it does exactly "excite me" lol Im "OK" with it. The same can not be said for Palin, i wouldnt want her anywhere near the white house, ever. Her name on a ticket basically guarantees a no vote from me, but hey thats jut me.

    now on other fronts Palin is smarter like "sheeping" the populous, making herself money off of them etc etc, shes good at that.
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