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    Re: Is obama an illegitimate president?

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    Obama ran for a second term largely on the story that Alquiada had been decimated on his watch. Then when terrorist linked to Alquiada attacked a US embassy and killed the Ambassador along with several other Americans Obama lied to the voters and said it was a spontaneous demonstration that got out of hand and was caused by a you tube video. Now that it has come out that he flat out lied and was told by the CIA it was indeed terrorism and now that it has come out that he told the CIA to delete all references to terrorism it seems he was elected for a second term largely based on a lie. It could be argued that if the voters knew from the beginning that terrorist did this it very well could have swung the election. Does this make him a president elected under false pretenses and therefor illegitimate? They took away Lance Armstrong's medals for breaking the rules and lying about it and erased all his records calling them illegitimate so what's the difference here?
    ... you really should try to think about how political processes work a little more philosophically than you do now. Applying this sort of logic consistently and fairly results in every single person who ever had an ounce of power immediately being ejected from their position of authority. Also, there is no way to implement a legal process to sort out this kind of dispute without devolving into a kangaroo court.

    Anyway, part of belonging to a society that empowers the people to choose their own leaders is that you have to accept the consequences of your choices. If you are only capable of electing someone who lies, then that is who you deserve to govern you.

    Not that I accept that Obama lied or that he even ran a platform of having defeated Al-Queda.
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    Re: Is obama an illegitimate president?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Clinton was a Rhodes scholar and went to Oxford and Yale. I'll take that over 2 Ivy League degrees any day.
    Clinton had to abandon Communism to get a second term. Thank God for Gingrich and Dole.

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    Re: Is obama an illegitimate president?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dooble View Post
    Clinton had to abandon Communism to get a second term. Thank God for Gingrich and Dole.
    Yeah, Clinton was an avowed communist alright. Thank goodness Gingrich and Dole thwarted the Revolution.
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    Re: Is obama an illegitimate president?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    Anyone who calls Bush "dumb" needs to have copies and pictures of at least two Ivy League degrees with his or her name on them.

    After all, he has them. No other POTUS does. Not Carter (lol), not Slick Willie, not any of them. None.
    Except for Obama of course.

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    Re: Is obama an illegitimate president?

    Quote Originally Posted by Morality Games View Post
    Yeah, Clinton was an avowed communist alright. Thank goodness Gingrich and Dole thwarted the Revolution.
    Another convert to true enlightenment. Welcome home, brother!

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    Re: Is obama an illegitimate president?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dooble View Post
    Another convert to true enlightenment. Welcome home, brother!
    I'm not sure casually making stuff up about a person's political positions passes for enlightenment.
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    Re: Is obama an illegitimate president?

    Quote Originally Posted by a351 View Post
    Except for Obama of course.
    I didn't adjust that claim to represent the current POTUS. After 43 presidents, it was true.

    I also wouldn't call Obama dumb in the slightest. Malicious? Sure. Incompetent? Absolutely. However, it's a brave man to actually stoop to the description of "dumb". Same goes with Bush.

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    Re: Is obama an illegitimate president?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    I didn't adjust that claim to represent the current POTUS. After 43 presidents, it was true.

    I also wouldn't call Obama dumb in the slightest. Malicious? Sure. Incompetent? Absolutely. However, it's a brave man to actually stoop to the description of "dumb". Same goes with Bush.
    It's more or less impossible not to be considered incompetent or malicious when half the country is committed to perceiving every single word that proceeds from your mouth as both foolish and an attack on them personally based on party affiliation alone.
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    Re: Is obama an illegitimate president?

    We should go back and invalidate every election of every poltitican who ever lie. Clearly, that is the only anwswer.

    Sawyer, you've topped yourself yet again. I can hardly wait until next week to see if you can do it again. I suggest something about the anti-christ.


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    Re: Is obama an illegitimate president?

    Quote Originally Posted by Morality Games View Post
    It's more or less impossible not to be considered incompetent or malicious when half the country is committed to perceiving every single word that proceeds from your mouth as both foolish and an attack on them personally based on party affiliation alone.
    I 100% expect that if Obama had an (R) after his name and tried to pull the policy stuff he does today, he'd be lauded.

    Do you believe that? I don't.

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