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    Re: Is obama an illegitimate president?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    Anyone who calls Bush "dumb" needs to have copies and pictures of at least two Ivy League degrees with his or her name on them.

    After all, he has them. No other POTUS does. Not Carter (lol), not Slick Willie, not any of them. None.
    This is a perfect example of what is not a good argument to make in favor of ivy leagues.

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    Re: Is obama an illegitimate president?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    Anyone who calls Bush "dumb" needs to have copies and pictures of at least two Ivy League degrees with his or her name on them.

    After all, he has them. No other POTUS does. Not Carter (lol), not Slick Willie, not any of them. None.
    Clinton was a Rhodes scholar and went to Oxford and Yale. I'll take that over 2 Ivy League degrees any day.
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    Re: Is obama an illegitimate president?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    This is a perfect example of what is not a good argument to make in favor of ivy leagues.
    Well I wouldn't trade my U of M business degree for any Ivy League biz degree (except Wharton at UPenn), but they're not scrubs schools by any stretch.

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    Re: Is obama an illegitimate president?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    Well I wouldn't trade my U of M business degree for any Ivy League biz degree (except Wharton at UPenn), but they're not scrubs schools by any stretch.
    That's fine. I'm just saying that if I have an unimpressive intellect, I'm not doing my alma mater any favors by putting them on my cv.

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    Re: Is obama an illegitimate president?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    That's fine. I'm just saying that if I have an unimpressive intellect, I'm not doing my alma mater any favors by putting them on my cv.
    "Unimpressive intellect" is a stretch though. You better have some serious credentials before you go calling Bush dumb. Otherwise, it comes off as petty jealousy.

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    Re: Is obama an illegitimate president?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    "Unimpressive intellect" is a stretch though. You better have some serious credentials before you go calling Bush dumb. Otherwise, it comes off as petty jealousy.
    Bush was an arrogant, unimaginative and remarkably uncurious man. But he wasn't dumb, and did in fact have an extremely high social intelligence. Happy?

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    Re: Is obama an illegitimate president?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    Bush was an arrogant, unimaginative and remarkably uncurious man. But he wasn't dumb, and did in fact have an extremely high social intelligence. Happy?

    arrogant-BS
    unimaginative-again BS
    Remarkably uncurious-compared to whom

    complete crap



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    Re: Is obama an illegitimate president?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    Bush was an arrogant, unimaginative and remarkably uncurious man. But he wasn't dumb, and did in fact have an extremely high social intelligence. Happy?
    High "social intelligence"?

    Progressives...

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    Re: Is obama an illegitimate president?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    High "social intelligence"?

    Progressives...
    Do you disagree?

    Um...libertarians...

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    Re: Is obama an illegitimate president?

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    Obama ran for a second term largely on the story that Alquiada had been decimated on his watch. Then when terrorist linked to Alquiada attacked a US embassy and killed the Ambassador along with several other Americans Obama lied to the voters and said it was a spontaneous demonstration that got out of hand and was caused by a you tube video. Now that it has come out that he flat out lied and was told by the CIA it was indeed terrorism and now that it has come out that he told the CIA to delete all references to terrorism it seems he was elected for a second term largely based on a lie. It could be argued that if the voters knew from the beginning that terrorist did this it very well could have swung the election. Does this make him a president elected under false pretenses and therefor illegitimate? They took away Lance Armstrong's medals for breaking the rules and lying about it and erased all his records calling them illegitimate so what's the difference here?
    Yes, based on this premise. Personally, I am waiting for impeachment proceedings.

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