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    Re: Is obama an illegitimate president?

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    G.W. Bush is not the smartest guy on this planet, But he's not dumb.
    Oh you definitely won't hear me argue his intellectual merits in some Dr. Hawking light.

    Bush's issues were mostly based on maturity and entitlement. Bush is a political family in America. He's a legacy child. When your dad's a former POTUS, you instantly become a popular choice for U.S. Senator or Governor of your state of choice (according to lean). Dubya had Texas. Jeb had Florida. Those drunk ass twins will probably end up being elected somewhere too, eventually.

    I would elaborate on maturity but...see above. It's not too far off of that base.

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    Re: Is obama an illegitimate president?

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    Obama ran for a second term largely on the story that Alquiada had been decimated on his watch. Then when terrorist linked to Alquiada attacked a US embassy and killed the Ambassador along with several other Americans Obama lied to the voters and said it was a spontaneous demonstration that got out of hand and was caused by a you tube video. Now that it has come out that he flat out lied and was told by the CIA it was indeed terrorism and now that it has come out that he told the CIA to delete all references to terrorism it seems he was elected for a second term largely based on a lie. It could be argued that if the voters knew from the beginning that terrorist did this it very well could have swung the election. Does this make him a president elected under false pretenses and therefor illegitimate? They took away Lance Armstrong's medals for breaking the rules and lying about it and erased all his records calling them illegitimate so what's the difference here?
    Obama won
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    Re: Is obama an illegitimate president?

    Instead of trying to kick out the guy that the Democrats put in the White House the GOP needs to find someone that they can put in the White House.





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    Re: Is obama an illegitimate president?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    Anyone who calls Bush "dumb" needs to have copies and pictures of at least two Ivy League degrees with his or her name on them.

    After all, he has them. No other POTUS does. Not Carter (lol), not Slick Willie, not any of them. None.
    LMAO

    You DO realize that Columbia is an Ivy League university, as is Harvard Law.

    Can you think of a POTUS who has degrees from these two institutions?
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    Re: Is obama an illegitimate president?

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    You have made an accusation.

    Now you need to either provide us with some proof or retract your egregious lie.



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    Vote was astronomical for Obama in some Philadelphia wards - Philly.com for one, now you have lead, do more research yourself. Since you didn't even know of it in the first place, I would say that you do not read various sources. So, which of the heavily biased liberal sources does a "good centrist" consider to be unbiased? Fox News also had an article about it.
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    Re: Is obama an illegitimate president?

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    Obama ran for a second term largely on the story that Alquiada had been decimated on his watch. Then when terrorist linked to Alquiada attacked a US embassy and killed the Ambassador along with several other Americans Obama lied to the voters and said it was a spontaneous demonstration that got out of hand and was caused by a you tube video. Now that it has come out that he flat out lied and was told by the CIA it was indeed terrorism and now that it has come out that he told the CIA to delete all references to terrorism it seems he was elected for a second term largely based on a lie. It could be argued that if the voters knew from the beginning that terrorist did this it very well could have swung the election. Does this make him a president elected under false pretenses and therefor illegitimate? They took away Lance Armstrong's medals for breaking the rules and lying about it and erased all his records calling them illegitimate so what's the difference here?
    As much as his opposition wanted him to lose, nearly all of the Benghazi confusion took place in the first days after the tragic event. By the time Election Day rolled around nearly a full month had past and by then it was clarified that the initial false assumption that the attack was motivated by an Egyptian produced you tube video critical of Islam was debunked. By November the administration and the American people were fully aware al Qaeda carried out the terrorist act at Benghazi yet voted to reelect Obama anyway. If it was thought that an Egyptian making YouTube videos inspired the killing of Americans in Libya; the White House, the CIA and the state department all knew it was untrue but conspired with each other to deceive the American public until after Election Day, you might have a point but the truth came out way before Election Day.

    Do I think the Obama administration feels America needs to walk on eggshells not to offend Muslims? Yes. Do I think the president will lie through his teeth in order to make it seem like an Egyptian thought to be an American offending Muslims motivated an attack that killed Americans when he knew it was untrue just to win an election? No.

    My honest opinion: an America dividing partisan witch hunt that I, a Republican will be forced to consider when voting in 2014 and 2016. I always thought tragedies such as these is what made republicans shine as we put aside our political team divisions and came together as a united American people. Oh well.
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    Re: Is obama an illegitimate president?

    If lying during candidacy made someone illegitimate, we haven't had a legit president yet.

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    Re: Is obama an illegitimate president?

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    Obama ran for a second term largely on the story that Alquiada had been decimated on his watch. Then when terrorist linked to Alquiada attacked a US embassy and killed the Ambassador along with several other Americans Obama lied to the voters and said it was a spontaneous demonstration that got out of hand and was caused by a you tube video. Now that it has come out that he flat out lied and was told by the CIA it was indeed terrorism and now that it has come out that he told the CIA to delete all references to terrorism it seems he was elected for a second term largely based on a lie. It could be argued that if the voters knew from the beginning that terrorist did this it very well could have swung the election. Does this make him a president elected under false pretenses and therefor illegitimate? They took away Lance Armstrong's medals for breaking the rules and lying about it and erased all his records calling them illegitimate so what's the difference here?
    Yes he was fairly elected.Romney was such a horrible candidate that if it wasn't for die hard republican party-tards Romney would have lost by a much larger number.Republicans accused John Kerry of being flip flopper but Mitt Romney is the king of flip floppers.
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    Re: Is obama an illegitimate president?

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    You have made an accusation.

    Now you need to either provide us with some proof or retract your egregious lie.




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    BTW, could you possible explain how a suggestion of a supposition somehow became an accusation to you?
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    Re: Is obama an illegitimate president?

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    Obama won
    get over it

    this election was the GOP's for the taking. and the republicans snatched defeat from the jaws of victory by running a milk toast ticket

    and this is just the start
    in 2016 a woman will win the presidential election
    and Elizabeth Warren will kick some substantial republican ass over two terms

    you may want to emigrate somewhere whiter and avoid having to endure such diversity
    Thank you, that is the point I was trying to make here. All I heard after Bush 43 beat algore was "selected not elected" and "illigitimate president". Just wanted to see what you guys would say when the shoe was on the other foot, wanted to watch you flip like a pancake and display your hypocrisy that is what I got in this thread. Another Sawyer theory goes into the fact column.

    EDIT: One other thing is my compliments to ALL the cons that said obama was legitimately elected, instead of tit for tat you took the high road.

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