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    Re: Is obama an illegitimate president?

    Quote Originally Posted by molten_dragon View Post
    Barring a supreme court decision (or a lower court decision which is not overturned) stating otherwise, one does not need to have two parents who are US citizens to be a natural born citizen. By the most common definition of 'natural born citizen', simply being born in the US, you don't even have to have one parent who is a US citizen to be a natural born citizen yourself.

    That is what we call progressivism. The purpose of the NBC clause is as I have shown you to have a president who owes allegiance only to the US. That is not Obama. The founders understood natural law. It seems many of you have no clue. There was no doubt back then what a natural born citizen was. There was no need to define it.

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    Re: Is obama an illegitimate president?

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    Yeah, it's impossible that poor blacks in the projects would vote for Romney.

    You aren't even bothering to look at the areas where Obama got 100% of the vote. Hint: they aren't mixed middle class neighborhoods. They are dirt poor, almost entirely (some actually are 100%) black areas.

    Now, if they WERE mixed middle class neighborhoods, that would be a big sign of fraud.

    So only blacks live there? And even if they did chances of everyone of them voting for Obama is slim to say the least.

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    Re: Is obama an illegitimate president?

    Quote Originally Posted by Awesome! View Post
    If anything we should be praising the wisdom and courage of Barack, to be the rock, staying strong for America amidst the challenges of well financed billionaire foes and corporations that are pitted against him. And now the witchhunt hearings. The courage and strength that this man has to still be standing tall for America is mind blowing and will no doubt be his legacy as he stands guard and fights the good fight for us all day in and day out. He didn't give up when the GOP tried to derail the healthcare town hall meetings, he didn't stay in his ivory tower when he needed to apologize to the common man over a brewsky, he didn't run from the fight, and for that I commend him and know that we are a better nation, a better people, a better community with Barack leading the charge and I don't think history will disagree with me.


    He will be lucky to finish his term.

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    Re: Is obama an illegitimate president?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gawain View Post
    That is what we call progressivism. The purpose of the NBC clause is as I have shown you to have a president who owes allegiance only to the US. That is not Obama. The founders understood natural law. It seems many of you have no clue. There was no doubt back then what a natural born citizen was. There was no need to define it.
    They didn't need to define it because it meant them - rich white landowners (and except for the Adamses, people-owners as well).

    In all technicality, the first 7 Presidents were not born citizens of the United States because there was no United States when they were born. Born in the United States was a good enough definition until Obama.


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    Too bad we have to observe human rights.

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    Re: Is obama an illegitimate president?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gawain View Post
    His father was an American citizen when he was born
    On Rubio you are correct
    He is not an NBC according to US law. Its based on Vattel. Likewise the 14th does not make anyone born here a citizen if you know how to read English.
    According to your definition, which includes birth on the soil of the country, George Romney was not a Natural Born Citizen. Neither is John McCain according to Vattel.


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    Re: Is obama an illegitimate president?

    Now that it is coming out that the IRS was tying up tea party type groups during the election I double down on the OP. OBAMA IS AN ILLEGITIMATE PRESIDENT!

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    Re: Is obama an illegitimate president?

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    Now that it is coming out that the IRS was tying up tea party type groups during the election I double down on the OP. OBAMA IS AN ILLEGITIMATE PRESIDENT!
    That still doesn't make him illegtimate. You need to bone up on the dictionary. The definition of "illegitimate" is not "I don't like him."


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    Re: Is obama an illegitimate president?

    Does it really matter? He's had so many impeachable offenses and he proved his citizenship with an alleged phony birth certificate. Obviously, Americans are afraid of him.

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    Re: Is obama an illegitimate president?

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    That still doesn't make him illegtimate. You need to bone up on the dictionary. The definition of "illegitimate" is not "I don't like him."
    That's becoming the standard retort from libs that have no real argument to make their case. "You don't understand the word"

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    Re: Is obama an illegitimate president?

    I voted no, because I think he is legitimate.
    The question if he is doing a good job, and following the Constitution,
    is what we should be asking.

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