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    Re: Nationalizing the Education System

    Time for homework. Four and a half weeks to go in Northeast. Wife will be here in a few weeks when our school back home let's out in Illinois.
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    Re: Nationalizing the Education System

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    You started the hating and complaining on public schools
    but you can'tor take the rebound.
    Though retired and still teaching, you haven't a clue in regards
    to government protected jobs when the laws have changed dramatically.
    Even righties on here don't play the give me a link game.
    My high school kids would have you for lunch.
    So you're refusing a third time to give reasons why vouchers are a bad idea? Interesting. Why are you here on the site, exactly?

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    Re: Nationalizing the Education System

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    It all depends on what you mean and since the OP was vague, I couldn't really answer. While I think that education ought to be funded locally, I think the curriculum ought to be set nationally so that every single school everywhere is learning the same things at the same time. This has the effect of bypassing local school board stupidity, getting rid of the power over textbook production for large states like California and Texas and making it possible to walk out of one classroom in one state and into another classroom in another state and not be a year ahead or a year behind. We should have national educational standards designed by experts in each given field and nobody ought to be able to opt out.
    I would have no problem with that until the last couple of years when courses differ by student interest. Of course, I'd rather dump the last two years completely to be replaced by junior college or trade school - but that's for another thread.
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    Re: Nationalizing the Education System

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    Re: Nationalizing the Education System

    I have no problem with national control/funding of education if it can somehow be separated from political minupulation. Maybe I wouldn't go as far as a Spartan type Agoge, but an educations system based upon the Japanese model with Marine DIs in control and a return to corporal punishment would definitely be a big benefit to the country.
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    Re: Nationalizing the Education System

    I just signed my oldest up for Kindergarten for next year.

    The reason I would like to see at the very least some national standards that keep children receiving basically the same type of education no matter where they go is because I am probably going to have to move next spring to a new state. Just like many military parents, who really don't have a choice in where they are sent, my husband and I will have to hope that the new school is at about the same point as the old one (which may be difficult since the school here is on a year round schedule and they teach Kinders and 1st graders Chinese (principal said it is DOD sponsored).


    And considering what happened with my siblings and school, there are some major problems. My brother had to get a GED because he failed one grade and the state they moved to would not allow those over 19 to enroll in school. He couldn't graduate because his birthday was in December and my mother moved in January to a new school district.
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    Re: Nationalizing the Education System

    Quote Originally Posted by Smeagol View Post
    What I don't like about the postal service are ridiculously long lines and a general lack in the quality of appreciation expressed toward customers. Oddly I think there have been improvements in recent years, very likely due to competition from FedEx and ups. Not just the post office by I see this lack of appreciation for customers in nearly every government run entity where the customer has no choice but to be at their mercy; federal, state and local.
    Well stated. I will probably never learn to play well with others. Arguing with teenagers and the rest while trying to prepare them for life after high school and being type A will cause that.

    I normally don't look for postals or others dealing with the public doing something wrong because of the behavior of the public. We're all sick of the complaints without fresh, positive solutions.

    I'll do my usual and blame the House since they have created the untenable situation with postal pensions. Did you find it a little phony that sequestered money magically appeared for TSA and Post Offices slated to close. I see the war on the common man beginning with the election of a very uncommon man to be POTUS in 1981.

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    Re: Nationalizing the Education System

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    I just signed my oldest up for Kindergarten for next year.

    The reason I would like to see at the very least some national standards that keep children receiving basically the same type of education no matter where they go is because I am probably going to have to move next spring to a new state. Just like many military parents, who really don't have a choice in where they are sent, my husband and I will have to hope that the new school is at about the same point as the old one (which may be difficult since the school here is on a year round schedule and they teach Kinders and 1st graders Chinese (principal said it is DOD sponsored).


    And considering what happened with my siblings and school, there are some major problems. My brother had to get a GED because he failed one grade and the state they moved to would not allow those over 19 to enroll in school. He couldn't graduate because his birthday was in December and my mother moved in January to a new school district.
    Nicely done. You are the future. You are correct IMO to speak of what I will refer to as a blend. NCLB continues to change every year in every state. Mandarin has become a wide-open field throughout the country, especially in the Chicago collar counties.

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    Re: Nationalizing the Education System

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    I just signed my oldest up for Kindergarten for next year.

    The reason I would like to see at the very least some national standards that keep children receiving basically the same type of education no matter where they go is because I am probably going to have to move next spring to a new state. Just like many military parents, who really don't have a choice in where they are sent, my husband and I will have to hope that the new school is at about the same point as the old one (which may be difficult since the school here is on a year round schedule and they teach Kinders and 1st graders Chinese (principal said it is DOD sponsored).


    And considering what happened with my siblings and school, there are some major problems. My brother had to get a GED because he failed one grade and the state they moved to would not allow those over 19 to enroll in school. He couldn't graduate because his birthday was in December and my mother moved in January to a new school district.

    I'm okay with students being required to exceed standards in competency every few years based on their grade level. I just don't want a federal public school monopoly where everybody except the wealthy are forced to enroll their kids. Federal school options I'm also fine with as long as its a choice, not the only option thus making it a requirement.

    I think the federal government already operates public schools at US military bases overseas. Maybe somebody can offer more enlightenment. Plus with new technology, my state operates an online accredited public school for all grade levels as an option for parents who'd rather not send their kids to a traditional public school. Giving parents options is I think what's needed.
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    Re: Nationalizing the Education System

    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    So you're refusing a third time to give reasons why vouchers are a bad idea? Interesting. Why are you here on the site, exactly?
    Jurist--Paper Chase--Louisiana Supreme Court votes down vouchers 6-1
    I have read very little of it. I'm too busy teaching and all.

    I'm here as a 4th year retired but still teaching teacher.

    I woke up in late morning on my birthday and turned on the TV. It was Sandy Hook. I went back to SchoolSpring and K12Jobspot and found a 2nd semester.

    4 years is a lot of time to make up. I missed everything, including the names I get called and the texting. Education is one of the few topics I believe should remain a state's right or lower.

    With complicated funding and different funding mechanisms in each state and schools that are broke, vouchers would hurt large, poor schools that remain behind. In my adopted state, students have school choice but their money doesn't follow them. We are being penalized for being better.

    And now, it's back to homework.

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