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  • He'll try; I won't support him.

    1 4.17%
  • He'll try; I'd be willing to support him.

    7 29.17%
  • He won't run, but I wish he would.

    6 25.00%
  • He won't run, Thank God.

    5 20.83%
  • Does his sausage taste as good as his brother Jimmy's does?

    5 20.83%
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Thread: Howard Dean in 2016

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    Re: Howard Dean in 2016

    Not likely. His campaign's greatest contribution was in terms of organization and party recruitment. That deserves enormous credit, but it does not lend itself to another Presidential run, especially against someone like Hillary or Biden.
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    Re: Howard Dean in 2016

    Quote Originally Posted by Dooble View Post
    That is the main reason he won. As for McCain and Romney, I was referring to what they did to defeat themselves.

    And why are you trying to fill in blanks where there aren't any?
    He didn't win because he was black. He won because the national mood soured on the Republican Party in general, and Bush in particular. 8 years in office tends to do that to political parties, and second terms tend to be sour notes for Presidents in the short term. Obama's race certainly helped his public persona and aura, but what mattered a great deal more was his predecessor's time in office.
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    Re: Howard Dean in 2016

    Quote Originally Posted by Morality Games View Post
    Republicans will lose until they:

    (1) actually achieve a conservative goal (limit the size of government, significantly reduce divorce rates, etc)

    (2) convince the center that conservative goals are still worth reaching for

    Both are equally unlikely and have little to do with the behavior of the Democratic Party.
    Republicans will win when Democratic ideas and public perception tank. It didn't necessarily mean that Democrats needed to pull out of two wars to win an election. It just needed the mood to sour enough. The idea that you won't win an election by being against someone is only half-true. You need to be against someone and present a somewhat plausible platform of distinctions between yourself and the other guy. The amount of similarities between you and an opponent only need to be ignored in favor of the distinctions.
    Michael J Petrilli-"Is School Choice Enough?"-A response to the recent timidity of American conservatives toward education reform. https://nationalaffairs.com/publicat...-choice-enough

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    Re: Howard Dean in 2016

    Quote Originally Posted by Dooble View Post
    That is the main reason he won. As for McCain and Romney, I was referring to what they did to defeat themselves.
    You do realize you just lied about your own statements?

    Let's revisit what you said:

    Skin tone was the chief, if not only, reason Barack Obama was voted into office.
    Care to change your story?

    And why are you trying to fill in blanks where there aren't any?
    Well, I know you are massively dishonest and now I have you trapped. Let's see you try weasel out of this one.
    "If your opponent is of choleric temperament, seek to irritate him." - Sun Tzu

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