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  • Yes, they are incompetent and/or stupid.

    5 17.86%
  • No, they are not incompetent and/or stupid.

    8 28.57%
  • In some ways yes, in some ways no.

    10 35.71%
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    Are politicians stupid and/or incompetent?

    Are politicians stupid and/or incompetent?

    I hear this a lot. Shoot, I've even been known to say it myself. But, when I slow down and think about what it is they do, and how they do it, and why they do it, I honestly cannot come to that conclusion. In fact, I think they're brilliant. Evilly brilliant. Masterful in deception. Opportunists of the highest degree.

    Bottom line: Politicians play us like the proverbial fiddle. And we keep falling for it. Yeah, we piss and moan and complain, then go out and re-elect the same ones over and over again. They know we're not happy, but they also know where the line is that they cannot cross that might actually spur us to action. They do enough to give us a comfortable life, so we get more upset over Twinkies disappearing from store shelves than we do from the outright theft of civil asset forfeiture (as just one example).

    Yes, there are some of us who see through it. Unfortunately, we're such a small percentage that we're pretty much disregarded.

    We're suckers. They know it. They leverage that fact to their benefit. We let them. If anybody is stupid and/or incompetent, it is us.

    Note: Most references to "we" and "us" are meant to be generic for society overall. Not any one specific person.
    If you claim sexual harassment to be wrong, yet you defend anyone on your side for any reason,
    then you are a hypocrite and everything you say on the matter is just babble.

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    Re: Are politicians stupid and/or incompetent?

    Populist victimization complex in full display here.
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    Re: Are politicians stupid and/or incompetent?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    Populist victimization complex in full display here.
    Please elaborate.
    If you claim sexual harassment to be wrong, yet you defend anyone on your side for any reason,
    then you are a hypocrite and everything you say on the matter is just babble.

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    Re: Are politicians stupid and/or incompetent?

    they are just clever
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    Re: Are politicians stupid and/or incompetent?

    You paint it as a grand conspiracy, where they are keeping you down, when in fact all it is is governing reality. You don't get what you want because it is difficult to get all you want. The small things are easy to debate, easier to understand, easier to come to resolutions on. They don't sit there and plot about how to control you, there's no congregation meetings, no Pinkie and the Brain sessions. It's just politics as we make it to be.
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    Re: Are politicians stupid and/or incompetent?

    Politicians aren't stupid, they're usually quite clever in how they manipulate people. The problem is that most politicians are lawyers or business people. If we had more historians in politics we would live in a much better world.

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    Re: Are politicians stupid and/or incompetent?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    You paint it as a grand conspiracy, where they are keeping you down, when in fact all it is is governing reality. You don't get what you want because it is difficult to get all you want. The small things are easy to debate, easier to understand, easier to come to resolutions on. They don't sit there and plot about how to control you, there's no congregation meetings, no Pinkie and the Brain sessions. It's just politics as we make it to be.
    I agree with you to a point. I don't see some conspiratorial secret society thing going on, no. But, given that, it has been well established that when it comes to things like gerrymandering and election laws that both of the main parties do indeed work together to secure their place in the system as much as possible.
    If you claim sexual harassment to be wrong, yet you defend anyone on your side for any reason,
    then you are a hypocrite and everything you say on the matter is just babble.

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    Re: Are politicians stupid and/or incompetent?

    Quote Originally Posted by Northern Light View Post
    Politicians aren't stupid, they're usually quite clever in how they manipulate people. The problem is that most politicians are lawyers or business people. If we had more historians in politics we would live in a much better world.
    Many believe that more business people in elected office would solve a lot of problems. I'm not one of those people. I don't have anything against business people holding office, I just don't equate the running of government to be even remotely close to that of running a business. Some business people can adapt to the different mindset, some cannot.
    If you claim sexual harassment to be wrong, yet you defend anyone on your side for any reason,
    then you are a hypocrite and everything you say on the matter is just babble.

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    Re: Are politicians stupid and/or incompetent?

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    Many believe that more business people in elected office would solve a lot of problems. I'm not one of those people. I don't have anything against business people holding office, I just don't equate the running of government to be even remotely close to that of running a business. Some business people can adapt to the different mindset, some cannot.
    We've had decades of direct observation which shows that putting business people at the helm does not yield good policy for the long-term health of the nation, in most areas.

    I would also like to see more middle class people in politics, instead of plutocrats.

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    Re: Are politicians stupid and/or incompetent?

    I think their are 5 traits that politicians just as the rest of us (most) suffer.

    1. Self serving.
    2. Wish to force (all)others to conform to their beliefs or outlook.
    3. Reluctant to compromise or try new things they may not agree with.
    4. Take leaps when baby steps would suffice.
    5. Bias against facts that do not fit into their views.

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