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Thread: Should Castle Doctrine and Stand Your Ground Laws Be Federal Law [W18]

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    Re: Should Castle Doctrine and Stand Your Ground Laws Be Federal Law [W18]

    Quote Originally Posted by ChezC3 View Post
    You're not seeing it in the correct context, it isn't about being what's allowed, it is being about what the law is limited to. That's what the Constitution was, a limitation of what government can do not what its citizens can't...
    I may not be looking at his the way you might prefer that I looked at it, but I'm pretty confident I am looking at it correctly, that I don't need the government's permission to defend me and mine.
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    I do not believe any amount of people committing suicide with firearms justifies requiring firearm sellers to preach to customers about suicide regardless if it would or wouldn't save those who commit suicide.

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    Re: Should Castle Doctrine and Stand Your Ground Laws Be Federal Law [W18]

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    States rights. So no.
    States do not have any right to regulate guns in any way. The right to arms is a right specifically enumerated in the constitution, and so it's the fed's to regulate, not the states.

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    Re: Should Castle Doctrine and Stand Your Ground Laws Be Federal Law [W18]

    Licencing and Castle Doctrine should both be Federal law. Your carry permit should be valid in every state of the union, nearly everywhere you have a legal right to be. Likewise, anyone legally carrying a gun aught to have certain automatic legal protections, to include defense-of-other and no 'duty to retreat'.

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    Re: Should Castle Doctrine and Stand Your Ground Laws Be Federal Law [W18]

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Licencing and Castle Doctrine should both be Federal law. Your carry permit should be valid in every state of the union, nearly everywhere you have a legal right to be. Likewise, anyone legally carrying a gun aught to have certain automatic legal protections, to include defense-of-other and no 'duty to retreat'.
    Why do guns get special rights, can't I refuse to retreat and defend others with my swinging cod - and of course lefty and the widow maker (righty).
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    I do not believe any amount of people committing suicide with firearms justifies requiring firearm sellers to preach to customers about suicide regardless if it would or wouldn't save those who commit suicide.

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    Re: Should Castle Doctrine and Stand Your Ground Laws Be Federal Law [W18]

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptinSarcastic View Post
    Why do guns get special rights, can't I refuse to retreat and defend others with my swinging cod - and of course lefty and the widow maker (righty).
    People have rights, not guns.

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    Re: Should Castle Doctrine and Stand Your Ground Laws Be Federal Law [W18]

    Quote Originally Posted by ChezC3 View Post
    Below is a wonderful story of a man defending his home from intrusion.

    http://boston.cbslocal.com/2013/05/0...-gardner-home/

    My problem is when you watch the video, you'll hear the narrator state Law Enforcement officials advise that home owners when faced with intrusion should flee.

    This to me is the most asinine, cowardly, depend on nanny state, thinking one could have and it really is disturbing that Law Enforcement officials, who have already been proven NOT to have a constitutional obligation of protecting you and yours would tell you and me to tuck tale and flee.

    If an intruder invades my home it will be by God's grace that he is capable of leaving it vertically. I will not flee, I will fight.

    I feel that this is a universal right, not one that should be subject to review or under the purview of anyone or anybody. Therefore, it should -- in my opinion -- fall under Federal statute, not to be limited or restricted in any way by State, County, or local levels of government.

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    Re: Should Castle Doctrine and Stand Your Ground Laws Be Federal Law [W18]

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    People have rights, not guns.
    And yet you said, " Likewise, anyone legally carrying a gun aught to have certain automatic legal protections, to include defense-of-other and no 'duty to retreat'."

    So why do guns make those people special?

    Why not " Likewise, anyone ought to have certain automatic legal protections, to include defense-of-other and no 'duty to retreat'."?
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    I do not believe any amount of people committing suicide with firearms justifies requiring firearm sellers to preach to customers about suicide regardless if it would or wouldn't save those who commit suicide.

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    Re: Should Castle Doctrine and Stand Your Ground Laws Be Federal Law [W18]

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptinSarcastic View Post
    So why do guns make those people special?
    They don't.

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    Re: Should Castle Doctrine and Stand Your Ground Laws Be Federal Law [W18]

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptinSarcastic View Post
    Why do guns get special rights, can't I refuse to retreat and defend others with my swinging cod - and of course lefty and the widow maker (righty).
    ALL arms are protected under the constitution not just firearms. So go ahead and defend your home with your cod pieces. I prefer medieval style arms if I can control the situation, there's not much that's more frightening than having a big broadsword or mace or flail coming toward your head at speed. Of course having a flintlock loaded with a .65 inch lead ball pointed at your chest does come quite close.
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    Re: Should Castle Doctrine and Stand Your Ground Laws Be Federal Law [W18]

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    They don't.
    So, again, why did NOT say " Likewise, anyone ought to have certain automatic legal protections, to include defense-of-other and no 'duty to retreat'."?

    Why the gun qualification? Mistake? Admit it.

    Or admit you want special rules for people carrying.

    Got to be one or the other.
    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    I do not believe any amount of people committing suicide with firearms justifies requiring firearm sellers to preach to customers about suicide regardless if it would or wouldn't save those who commit suicide.

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