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Thread: Should Castle Doctrine and Stand Your Ground Laws Be Federal Law [W18]

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    Re: Should Castle Doctrine and Stand Your Ground Laws Be Federal Law [W18]

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    Come on United, Zimmerman was suckered punch by Trayvon.

    Ballistic evidence shows that Trayvon was on top of Zimmerman. Zimmerman couldn't retreat and run away like a good liberal.

    I believe that's why Zimmerman's defense aren't using the "Stand Your Ground Law" as a defense.

    You do know you personally responded to Zimmerman on the Politico before he was attacked by Trayvon ?
    People that would pull a gun on unarmed person should not carry a gun. We generally refer to folks who would pull on an unarmed person a criminal, I don't know why it is different in this case.

    Losing a fight that you precipitated does not give you the right to murder someone, it gives you the right to get your ass beat.
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    Re: Should Castle Doctrine and Stand Your Ground Laws Be Federal Law [W18]

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptinSarcastic View Post
    People that would pull a gun on unarmed person should not carry a gun. We generally refer to folks who would pull on an unarmed person a criminal, I don't know why it is different in this case.

    Losing a fight that you precipitated does not give you the right to murder someone, it gives you the right to get your ass beat.


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    Re: Should Castle Doctrine and Stand Your Ground Laws Be Federal Law [W18]

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    1.) its pretty easy typically there should always be an "other" option, secondly you shouldnt word the poll in such a biased and dishonest manner.
    2.) in principle i do agree but there are some castle laws and stand your ground laws that are outside the realm of normal rights and i wouldnt want those national.
    1. You're taking yourself waaaaaaay too seriously for a Friday evening.
    2. I purposefully chose those options because they were provocative.
    3. What is beyond your "normal right" as it regards your right to protect your life and property?

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    Re: Should Castle Doctrine and Stand Your Ground Laws Be Federal Law [W18]

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptinSarcastic View Post
    People that would pull a gun on unarmed person should not carry a gun. We generally refer to folks who would pull on an unarmed person a criminal.....

    So is a 70yo Granny supposed to open a six-pack of Mixed Martial Arts WhupAss on a 20yo thug that attacks her?




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    Re: Should Castle Doctrine and Stand Your Ground Laws Be Federal Law [W18]

    Just to throw my two bits in, I think Castle Law and no-duty-to-retreat ("SYG") are such common sense measures that there is no reason why they aren't standard precedent in every jurisdiction.

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    Re: Should Castle Doctrine and Stand Your Ground Laws Be Federal Law

    Under the Laws of Nature / Vattel's "Law of Nations", individuals have the right to stand his ground and defend his home, property, family and life or even a neighbors home or life and use deadly force to to do so.

    Government telling individuals that they can't stand their ground to defend their life, family or property is violating the Laws of Nature. The politically correct, the political left ignore the Laws of Nature.

    Citizens should have the same rights as the sovereign or government. Each individual should be looked upon as a sovereign.
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    Re: Should Castle Doctrine and Stand Your Ground Laws Be Federal Law [W18]

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    Yes, but SYG and Castle Doctrine can be used as a blanket "get out of jail free" card in this aspect. If you just let it go unchallenged, you'll see people essentially bending the rules to get a clean slate.

    Don't get me wrong - I essentially agree with these doctrines, but I also think that the mere existence of these laws create a massive amount of grey area that I really do not wish to see be categorized in convenient little boxes.
    I think you underestimate the tenacity of the AG's and SA' office to stick their nose into private citizens affairs...

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    Re: Should Castle Doctrine and Stand Your Ground Laws Be Federal Law [W18]

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    Just to throw my two bits in, I think Castle Law and no-duty-to-retreat ("SYG") are such common sense measures that there is no reason why they aren't standard precedent in every jurisdiction.
    Personally I think stand your ground is a potential nightmare. What if the wrong people start taking advantage of the law to commit crimes and when they kill some one they claim self defense?

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    Re: Should Castle Doctrine and Stand Your Ground Laws Be Federal Law [W18]

    Quote Originally Posted by ChezC3 View Post
    I think you underestimate the tenacity of the AG's and SA' office to stick their nose into private citizens affairs...
    Oh I have a healthy distrust of government at all levels. However, I'm not going to don the tinfoil hat and start shouting "CONSPIRACY!" around every corner.

    Them "sticking their nose" in this is an absolutely necessary evil, since it's a determinant that makes an action become "self defense" or "murder". I'll take some government action lightly, but not that.

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    Re: Should Castle Doctrine and Stand Your Ground Laws Be Federal Law [W18]

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptinSarcastic View Post
    Me too!

    I figure a guy that needs a federal law to be a man is a wuss anyway.

    Badges, I don't need no steenking badges!

    I'll protect me and mine with or without someone telling me I am allowed.
    You're not seeing it in the correct context, it isn't about being what's allowed, it is being about what the law is limited to. That's what the Constitution was, a limitation of what government can do not what its citizens can't...

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