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Thread: Should Castle Doctrine and Stand Your Ground Laws Be Federal Law [W18]

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    Re: Should Castle Doctrine and Stand Your Ground Laws Be Federal Law [W18]

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptinSarcastic View Post
    So, again, why did NOT say " Likewise, anyone ought to have certain automatic legal protections, to include defense-of-other and no 'duty to retreat'."?

    Why the gun qualification? Mistake? Admit it.

    Or admit you want special rules for people carrying.

    Got to be one or the other.
    Castle doctrine doesn't apply to only firearms. It applies to any form of lethal force.

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    Re: Should Castle Doctrine and Stand Your Ground Laws Be Federal Law [W18]

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Licencing and Castle Doctrine should both be Federal law. Your carry permit should be valid in every state of the union, nearly everywhere you have a legal right to be. Likewise, anyone legally carrying a gun aught to have certain automatic legal protections, to include defense-of-other and no 'duty to retreat'.
    Shouldn't need a permit to carry period.
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    Re: Should Castle Doctrine and Stand Your Ground Laws Be Federal Law [W18]

    Quote Originally Posted by PirateMk1 View Post
    ALL arms are protected under the constitution not just firearms. So go ahead and defend your home with your cod pieces. I prefer medieval style arms if I can control the situation, there's not much that's more frightening than having a big broadsword or mace or flail coming toward your head at speed. Of course having a flintlock loaded with a .65 inch lead ball pointed at your chest does come quite close.
    My swinging cod might be a bit medieval, but my real question was why any special protection and exemption for the amed at all. If I can protect and defend with my fists, why the "anyone legally carrying ought" nonsense ?
    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    I do not believe any amount of people committing suicide with firearms justifies requiring firearm sellers to preach to customers about suicide regardless if it would or wouldn't save those who commit suicide.

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    Re: Should Castle Doctrine and Stand Your Ground Laws Be Federal Law [W18]

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Castle doctrine doesn't apply to only firearms. It applies to any form of lethal force.
    Okay, so a mistake, fine, good.
    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    I do not believe any amount of people committing suicide with firearms justifies requiring firearm sellers to preach to customers about suicide regardless if it would or wouldn't save those who commit suicide.

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    Re: Should Castle Doctrine and Stand Your Ground Laws Be Federal Law [W18]

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptinSarcastic View Post
    My swinging cod might be a bit medieval, but my real question was why any special protection and exemption for the amed at all. If I can protect and defend with my fists, why the "anyone legally carrying ought" nonsense ?
    Don't know to be honest. Don't particularly care about it either to tell the truth, because my family and home and property will be vigorously defended regardless of the law. Your right, there shouldn't be a difference in legal outcome regardless of HOW you defend yourself, your family, your home, or your property, it should be completely legal do so as you see fit.
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    Re: Should Castle Doctrine and Stand Your Ground Laws Be Federal Law [W18]

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptinSarcastic View Post
    Okay, so a mistake, fine, good.
    Guess that answered that question.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post

    Castle doctrine doesn't apply to only firearms. It applies to any form of lethal force.
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    Re: Should Castle Doctrine and Stand Your Ground Laws Be Federal Law [W18]

    Quote Originally Posted by ChezC3 View Post
    My problem is when you watch the video, you'll hear the narrator state Law Enforcement officials advise that home owners when faced with intrusion should flee.
    Yes, I think stand your ground and especially castle doctrine especially should be legal on a national level. However the video is kind of right. And kind of wrong. As are you. There is no one-size-fits-all response to having an intruder in your home. If you can get your family and leave safely, that's a pretty smart idea. At worst they're going to steal some stuff, and likely you're insured for it. After all, the people breaking in may have guns too. And even if shooting someone in self defense is legal, it doesn't mean a jury will agree that it was self defense.

    Sometimes retreat, while it might hurt your pride, is the smarter decision.
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    Re: Should Castle Doctrine and Stand Your Ground Laws Be Federal Law [W18]

    Quote Originally Posted by molten_dragon View Post
    Yes, I think stand your ground and especially castle doctrine especially should be legal on a national level. However the video is kind of right. And kind of wrong. As are you. There is no one-size-fits-all response to having an intruder in your home. If you can get your family and leave safely, that's a pretty smart idea. At worst they're going to steal some stuff, and likely you're insured for it. After all, the people breaking in may have guns too. And even if shooting someone in self defense is legal, it doesn't mean a jury will agree that it was self defense.

    Sometimes retreat, while it might hurt your pride, is the smarter decision.
    I'm sorry, but any person who will break into another persons home deserves to be shot. There are some lines that should not be crossed.

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    Re: Should Castle Doctrine and Stand Your Ground Laws Be Federal Law [W18]

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptinSarcastic View Post
    I may not be looking at his the way you might prefer that I looked at it, but I'm pretty confident I am looking at it correctly, that I don't need the government's permission to defend me and mine.
    Then we are in agreement, however the government thinks differently.

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    Re: Should Castle Doctrine and Stand Your Ground Laws Be Federal Law [W18]

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord of Planar View Post
    I'm sorry, but any person who will break into another persons home deserves to be shot. There are some lines that should not be crossed.
    I'm not saying they don't deserve it or that it should be illegal, I'm saying that sometimes getting out of the house and calling 911 is a smarter idea than hanging around trying to shoot them.
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