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    Re: Do you believe in Democracy?

    Democratic participation by the profoundly ignorant ought to be, don't you agree?

    The idea that "it is everyone's duty to vote" is swill. It is the duty of everyone who votes to be well informed.
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    Re: Do you believe in Democracy?

    Kudos to those who admit to "hating our government".
    If nothing else, you are honest....in short supply today...
    But, my belief in democracy cannot be 100%.
    We do NOT have the overall quality of people for this..
    But things are improving, slowly.
    Even now, too many believe its OK for so few to have so much of the money supply...(the overpaying of "stars")
    The exact percentage is unknown to me..

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    Re: Do you believe in Democracy?

    Quote Originally Posted by spud_meister View Post
    I believe in One Man, One Vote. I'm the man, and I get to vote. It's the perfect democracy.

    (So I stole that from Pratchett, leave me alone)
    Men only voting is fine as long as they are educated and intelligent.
    Today, we have the mob - elected to Congress - and this does NOT work.

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    Re: Do you believe in Democracy?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lachean View Post
    When it comes to my individual rights, I care not what the mob thinks. Our rights are specifically the kinds of things that cannot legally be voted away.

    I like the idea of democratically elected officials, because you can get rid of the meddlesome ones. Else Democracy to me is just two wolves and a sheep deciding on whats for dinner. When those that rob Peter to pay Paul always have Paul's support, the thieving and corruption will not end.
    In order for democracy to work successfully, we cannot have animals(sheep and wolves) nor mobsters (beggers and thieves) in the equasion...
    This we may not have, yet...
    We need a better people.

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    Re: Do you believe in Democracy?

    Quote Originally Posted by earthworm View Post
    In order for democracy to work successfully, we cannot have animals(sheep and wolves) nor mobsters (beggers and thieves) in the equasion...
    This we may not have, yet...
    We need a better people.
    If that's what you think is required then we will never have a democracy. Sheep and wolves are part of human society, as ingrained as huddling together for protection and warmth. You should read some game theory, or re-read it.
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    Re: Do you believe in Democracy?

    Another thing that is interesting in this thread is that everyone seems to think everyone else is an idiot, except themselves, of course. No one else is capable of making a wise decision except democratically elected representatives. Really, are our elected representatives such geniuses? How many of our problems ever get fixed? Do they always do the best for the public's interest? It's interesting to hear people complain ad infinitum about how corrupt and unresponsive to the people our elected official's are until a debate about democracy comes up. Then everyone says the current system is the best way for government.

    So, a lot of people think they are intelligent, but no one seems to be able to come up with an answer on how to reign in our politicians and make them more accountable to the public well being? Maybe everyone is right and everyone really is an idiot.
    Last edited by kenc; 05-12-13 at 02:07 PM.

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    Re: Do you believe in Democracy?

    Quote Originally Posted by kenc View Post
    No one else is capable of making a wise decision except democratically elected representatives.
    I don't know of anyone who believes that!
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    Re: Do you believe in Democracy?

    Quote Originally Posted by MoSurveyor View Post
    I don't know of anyone who believes that!
    Exactly. So why does everyone think democratically elected representatives are better at decision making than the general public is? Aren't they both idiots? At least in a participatory democracy the people get what they vote for. If they get it wrong they pay for their mistakes. In a representative democracy the politicians usually get it wrong and the people still pay for the mistakes.

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    Re: Do you believe in Democracy?

    Quote Originally Posted by Removable Mind View Post
    Apparently there's a few who don't understand what the consequences of living in a "true democracy" would be like. NOT GOOD!
    It would in effect be a "tribal government". Anything that is not forbidden would be mandatory and God help you if the majority decided that your existence is in the forbidden category.
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    Re: Do you believe in Democracy?

    Quote Originally Posted by kenc View Post
    ...Another idea I had awhile ago was to finally stop the charade and just privatize the US government, and turn it into US Government, Inc. As a private, for profit, institution it can sell its services to generate the revenue it needs. It then is only responsible to do what is in the best interest of its shareholders. And if you want a say in how you are governed you only have to buy enough shares of US Government, Inc, to get your way. If not, sit back and let US Government, Inc. decide what is the best use for you. By the way, how's that for all you free market fanatics?.....
    How would that be different from the present system? We already have the best government money can buy.

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