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    Re: Do you believe in Democracy?

    Direct democracy? Absolutely not, it doesn't work. A democratic republic like we have in the U.S.? Sure.
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    Re: Do you believe in Democracy?

    Quote Originally Posted by spud_meister View Post
    Precisely my point. If there was a strong monarch in Germany, Hitler would never have risen to power. Republicanism is the problem.
    Ah, but Monarchies/dictatorships have their own problems. Well strong and the most efficient, they rely upon the knowledge and benevolence of one or a few. Is there any actual proof that those two necessities for a monarch/dictator have been common traits of the breed throughout history?

    Perhaps the 5 "wise" Emperors of Rome might serve as a positive example, they are just 5 out of how many throughout time? What is the historical ratio of "good" monarchs/dictators to bad? It's kind of like going to Vegas, yes, you can win sometimes, but the odds are stacked against you.
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    Its interesting the amount of opposition to direct democracy since it has actually never actually been tried in a national government. Every other form of government that has been tried has been proven to have many flaws.

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    Re: Do you believe in Democracy?

    Quote Originally Posted by DVSentinel View Post
    Ah, but Monarchies/dictatorships have their own problems. Well strong and the most efficient, they rely upon the knowledge and benevolence of one or a few. Is there any actual proof that those two necessities for a monarch/dictator have been common traits of the breed throughout history?

    Perhaps the 5 "wise" Emperors of Rome might serve as a positive example, they are just 5 out of how many throughout time? What is the historical ratio of "good" monarchs/dictators to bad? It's kind of like going to Vegas, yes, you can win sometimes, but the odds are stacked against you.
    I live under a monarchy, it's working pretty well.
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    Re: Do you believe in Democracy?

    I believe in Democracy. I also believe in a thing called love



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    Re: Do you believe in Democracy?

    Democracy needs to be curtailed.
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    Re: Do you believe in Democracy?

    Quote Originally Posted by spud_meister View Post
    I live under a monarchy, it's working pretty well.
    An absolute Monarchy or a limited Monarchy?
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    Re: Do you believe in Democracy?

    Quote Originally Posted by DVSentinel View Post
    An absolute Monarchy or a limited Monarchy?
    Limited constitutional monarchy, I'm Australian. Works better than a republic because the head of state is removed from the political process and is able to make objective decisions when required, but when not required is invisible to the political process.
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    Re: Do you believe in Democracy?

    Quote Originally Posted by spud_meister View Post
    Limited constitutional monarchy, I'm Australian. Works better than a republic because the head of state is removed from the political process and is able to make objective decisions when required, but when not required is invisible to the political process.
    How would such have prevented Hitler from rising? For that matter, other than popular influence of the voters, assuming media cooperation, what real power does the Queen have?
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    Re: Do you believe in Democracy?

    Quote Originally Posted by DVSentinel View Post
    How would such have prevented Hitler from rising? For that matter, other than popular influence of the voters, assuming media cooperation, what real power does the Queen have?
    Well, imagine at the end of WW1, instead of getting the Weimar Republic, Germany had instead become a constitutional monarch, with a legislature to temper Kaiser Wilhelms idiocy. Things would probably have turned out better.
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