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How long till Same Sex Marriage is nationally legal in the US?

How long till Same Sex Marriage is nationally legal in the US?

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davidtaylorjr said:
Marriage is defined as one man and one woman, where does that leave SSM?
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It is not defined that way. That is only your personal definition which means nothing to how something truly is defined.

Marriage- a (1) : the state of being united to a person of the opposite sex as husband or wife in a consensual and contractual relationship recognized by law (2) : the state of being united to a person of the same sex in a relationship like that of a traditional marriage

Marriage - Definition and More from the Free Merriam-Webster Dictionary
 
Verthaine said:
Shouldn't you have added the phrase "..according to my beliefs" between the word "wrong" and the period at the end of the sentence?
I wasn't there when the Supreme allegedly said that,so I don't know if that is actually true.
Other than second or third hand accounts written by someone thousands of years ago,can you provide evidence that that is in fact the case?
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The Bible was written by God Himself. So it is not according to my beliefs. The fact is that it doesn't matter if you believe it or not, it is true, and you will give an account on judgement day.
 
roguenuke said:
It is not defined that way. That is only your personal definition which means nothing to how something truly is defined.

Marriage- a (1) : the state of being united to a person of the opposite sex as husband or wife in a consensual and contractual relationship recognized by law (2) : the state of being united to a person of the same sex in a relationship like that of a traditional marriage

Marriage - Definition and More from the Free Merriam-Webster Dictionary
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The second part of the definition was not added until recently due to a liberal agenda.
 
roguenuke said:
Wrong. Prove your idea of who God is and what God wants exists, then you may be able to state this. Until that day, you can't say such a thing for truth because the only "evidence" you have of what God wants is what is found in the Bible, which is passages written by men. Other religions have conflicting passages and/or beliefs about what God wants. My own beliefs conflict with yours about what God finds right or wrong. You have no evidence to support your actual beliefs, so therefore, you cannot speak for God.
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Then what evidence do you have for your beliefs?
 
davidtaylorjr said:
The second part of the definition was not added until recently due to a liberal agenda.
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It doesn't matter when it was added. (The "liberal agenda" thing is merely you showing the rest of us your bias.) It is part of the definition. Since people use "marriage" to describe legal relationships/unions between those of the same sex then it is in fact a part of the definition.
 
davidtaylorjr said:
Then what evidence do you have for your beliefs?
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I don't have any, that is the point. They are just beliefs. So you saying that something is wrong or that God says something is wrong is nothing more than your belief. No proof/evidence to back it up so you cannot prove that morality is anything more than subjective, opinion.
 
davidtaylorjr said:
Marriage is defined as one man and one woman, where does that leave SSM?
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nope it not
history disagrees with you and so do i believe 12 states now also

it leaves SSm exactly where its at. Unequal rights that are slowly but surely being fixed.
 
davidtaylorjr said:
The Bible was written by God Himself. So it is not according to my beliefs. The fact is that it doesn't matter if you believe it or not, it is true, and you will give an account on judgement day.
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Prove it. You can't. We in fact have lots of evidence that the Bible was written by men. You have absolutely zero evidence that it was written by God.
 
roguenuke said:
I don't have any, that is the point. They are just beliefs. So you saying that something is wrong or that God says something is wrong is nothing more than your belief. No proof/evidence to back it up so you cannot prove that morality is anything more than subjective, opinion.
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Just because you cannot prove something, does that make it untrue? No. God said it, therefore it is.
 
roguenuke said:
Prove it. You can't. We in fact have lots of evidence that the Bible was written by men. You have absolutely zero evidence that it was written by God.
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If you are talking about the handwriting, then yes, but the words, All Scripture is given by Inspriation of God, or God Breathed.
 
davidtaylorjr said:
Just because you cannot prove something, does that make it untrue? No. God said it, therefore it is.
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If you can't prove it, it makes it personal opinion, subjective and not to be considered anything more than that in a court of law or in laws in general.
 
winston53660 said:
Did god create everything in the universe? And if so why would god sadle with a sin such as being gay ?
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Is it possible that homosexuals have always been convenient targets and scapegoats of tyrants and those with the agenda of controlling and ruling the masses.Homosexuals have always been one of those minorities that people in pwer have pointed out to those they wish to control as being the "Other" and being "Different".

We all know how how societies throughout history have treated the "Others",the "Different".
Now personally,I think "homosexuality as a sin" has nothing to do with "God" and everything to do with "Power and Control".
But that's just my opinion.
 
davidtaylorjr said:
If you are talking about the handwriting, then yes, but the words, All Scripture is given by Inspriation of God, or God Breathed.
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You cannot prove this. This is your opinion, nothing more.
 
davidtaylorjr said:
If you are talking about the handwriting, then yes, but the words, All Scripture is given by Inspriation of God, or God Breathed.
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According to the beliefs of those who choose to believe that.
 
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