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How long till Same Sex Marriage is nationally legal in the US?

How long till Same Sex Marriage is nationally legal in the US?

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cabse5 said:
Ah, the problem is: the definition of marriage will be forever changed because of politics
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That's not a problem.

It's politics because gays (and judges) want to bestow the rights and responsibilties of marriage to everyone, (that's socialism, by the way) but not marriage.
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What does this sentence even mean?

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All the badmouthing you guys give marriage.
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"You guys"? I am married, and happily.


Finally, since when has anything Canada done ever been a shining example to the rest of the world?
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Well, since Canada was an uninspiring fourth place in the legalization of same-sex marriage, I plainly wasn't talking about setting an example. I was saying that you can look at the country that is easily the most culturally-similar to the US--that's Canada--and watch what horrible effects ten years of legalized ssm has had on our country.

The answer, you'll discover, appears to be "zero."

So unless your argument is that America has proportionally more mouth-breathing losers and moral cretins that we do, I think the indicators for the futurre of your country under redefined marriage remain positive..
 
cabse5 said:
I might as well use the word ideology since bigotry seems to rile some of you guys. It means the same thing. A majority of ideological Maryland judges voted for gay marriage. Now, look ideological up.
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Right--the religiously-inspired folk who think God gave "ownership" of the word marriage to a boy and girl homo habilis (don't let that first word scare you off from the rest of my post), and who think everything to the left of Suharto is "socialism," aren't ideologically-motivated at all.

:)
 
cabse5 said:
When you get a handle on Civil War history let me know. Reread my post (and yours).
You said not all northerners were abolitionist. I said a majority of northerners were abolitionist. Same difference.
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Look, just because you feel, incorrectly, that the North was overwhelmingly populated with abolitionists, doesn't mean you can assume I know little about "Civil War history" (when this isn't relegated to Civil War history in the first place). It's a beginner's mistake you are making, one that hopefully, your professors attempted to correct.
 
Fiddytree said:
Why should the state and its people be crippled by the religious institutions? If anything, it is the state that should be benevolently using the religious.
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Too worldly & perverse. It's better if the religious benevolently uses the state.
 
Dooble said:
Too worldly & perverse. It's better if the religious benevolently uses the state.
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I hardly think most of them capable of such a task. At least the state has longer experience exploiting religious fancies to keep you in line.
 
Fiddytree said:
I hardly think most of them capable of such a task. At least the state has longer experience exploiting religious fancies to keep you in line.
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The state is incapable of doing anything benevolent, therefore, it's a moot point. Our best bet is for the religious (specifically Christians) to guide this country out of the sewer.
 
Dooble said:
The state is incapable of doing anything benevolent, therefore, it's a moot point. Our best bet is for the religious (specifically Christians) to guide this country out of the sewer.
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Distrust of the State sounds rational to me, but it's not an either/or. Why would we trust religious folk, Christian or otherwise, to do a better job?
 
Dooble said:
Our best bet is for the religious (specifically Christians) to guide this country out of the sewer.
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Which is what I long argued. We just need to keep you on a very short leash. You don't deserve power.
 
cabse5 said:
1.)Why do you keep harping on this incorrect notion of separate but equal institutions is unconstitutional
2.)when I've already shown a multitude of separate but equal institutions ALLOWED by law? I can name at least 50 off the top of my head.

3.)Equal rights for gays can be achieved without gay marriage.
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1.) its not an incorrect notion at all its fact, nor have i mentioned the constitution. Please keep up
2.) please provide these examples id love to read them im willing to bet they are non-parallels and have NOTHING to to with equality/rights
but i expect 50 from you that actually "relate" lol

im willing to bet your gonna mention nonsense like woman and mens bathrooms LMAO

3.) factual false
 
Strucker said:
Right--the religiously-inspired folk who think God gave "ownership" of the word marriage to a boy and girl homo habilis (don't let that first word scare you off from the rest of my post), and who think everything to the left of Suharto is "socialism," aren't ideologically-motivated at all.

:)
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Wow, you aren't ideological, or radical are you?:2wave:
 
Fiddytree said:
Look, just because you feel, incorrectly, that the North was overwhelmingly populated with abolitionists, doesn't mean you can assume I know little about "Civil War history" (when this isn't relegated to Civil War history in the first place). It's a beginner's mistake you are making, one that hopefully, your professors attempted to correct.
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You're a joke to argue with. How do you think the GOP (a party based in abolitionism) won 2 consecutive presidential terms in this emotionally charged time, hum?
 
Strucker said:
Distrust of the State sounds rational to me, but it's not an either/or. Why would we trust religious folk, Christian or otherwise, to do a better job?
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Are you atheist?
 
cabse5 said:
Wow, you aren't ideological, or radical are you?:2wave:
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If I was a Christian..which I am not..I would feel that the teachings of the bible..''Man shall not lie down with man'' had been ignored..and now they accept this...

It is not about marriage..it is about shooting everyone's beliefs out of the water...
 
wolfie said:
If I was a Christian..which I am not..I would feel that the teachings of the bible..''Man shall not lie down with man'' had been ignored..and now they accept this...

It is not about marriage..it is about shooting everyone's beliefs out of the water...
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Gays have the right to marriage. So what is this non-sense about shooting everyones's beliefs out of the water?
 
AGENT J said:
fact 1: seperate but equal is not separate
fact 2: equal rights for gays has ZERO effect to the sanctity of marriage
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You know, J, instead of making some nebulous statement like "factual false", why don't you explain your comment? For example, what is the factual false?

You posted about separate but equal institutions not being separate, what did you mean?

You want me to name 50 separate but equal institutions off the top of my head? I'll give a clue: examples are California, Nevada, Washington, Oregon, and most recently, Colorado. Yes, they're states.
 
winston53660 said:
Gays have the right to marriage. So what is this non-sense about shooting everyones's beliefs out of the water?
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So likewise, everyone is entitled to an A on their schoolwork? You socialist.
 
winston53660 said:
Gays have the right to marriage. So what is this non-sense about shooting everyones's beliefs out of the water?
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It is against Christian belief..

What right do you think you have to overturn Biblical quotes..

Gays have a right to carry on their own business..without inflicting it on others..
 
wolfie said:
It is against Christian belief..
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So is eating shell fish.

What right do you think you have to overturn Biblical quotes..
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I don't live in a theocracy. Anyhows why do you care? You already stated you are not a Christian. Oh wait any thing to bash gays right?

Gays have a right to carry on their own business..without inflicting it on others..
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And you have the right to change the channel so to say.
 
wolfie said:
It is against Christian belief..

What right do you think you have to overturn Biblical quotes..

Gays have a right to carry on their own business..without inflicting it on others..
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The problem is that for nearly every legalized thing in the United States there's probably at least one religious faith that is offended by it. This is why policies must be determined by something other than whether it necessarily offends a particular religious principle.
 
cabse5 said:
You know, J, instead of making some nebulous statement like "factual false", why don't you explain your comment? For example, what is the factual false?

2.)You posted about separate but equal institutions not being separate, what did you mean?

3.) You want me to name 50 separate but equal institutions off the top of my head? I'll give a clue: examples are California, Nevada, Washington, Oregon, and most recently, Colorado. Yes, they're states.
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1.) thats easy it is indeed factually false, separate but equal is a fallacy. AGain are you from america? are you familiar with our history, rights, laws, liberties and freedoms. Dont play dumb.
2.) no i said they arent equal or i meant to say they arent equal if i made a type-o
3.) no you said you could name 50 off the top of your head easy, as you just proved you cant not

you started naming states they dont have separate but equal marriages they all have marriage and the states are allowed to slightly tweak them ALL OF THEM TOGETHER

weird you didnt quote my last post to you
 
wolfie said:
It is against Christian belief..

What right do you think you have to overturn Biblical quotes..

Gays have a right to carry on their own business..without inflicting it on others..
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nothing is being overturned LOL
thats a failed strawman
 
Cardinal said:
The problem is that for nearly every legalized thing in the United States there's probably at least one religious faith that is offended by it. This is why policies must be determined by something other than whether it necessarily offends a particular religious principle.
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We are not talking Jehovah's witnesses here..we are talking about a fundamental belief in the bible..
 
cabse5 said:
So likewise, everyone is entitled to an A on their schoolwork? You socialist.
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this example fails and expose your broken logic every time you say it

they have nothign to do with eachother LMAO
 
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