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    Re: How long till Same Sex Marriage is nationally legal in the US?

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    They cannot legitimately make that argument. There would be a lot of people who would contend such a ruling and even Congress and the President would have to admit that it was not a legitimate ruling. It just would be too far reaching.
    No appeal with the Supreme Court. You're done.

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    Re: How long till Same Sex Marriage is nationally legal in the US?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ray410 View Post
    No appeal with the Supreme Court. You're done.
    That simply isn't true. While it hasn't happened, if the SCOTUS were to rule something unconstitutional that went way beyond their power to do so, it is not inconceivable for the other branches of the government to find them wrong and move to correct the situation. Otherwise, what would prevent the SCOTUS from declaring anything they want to unconstitutional, including anybody but them from making/approving of laws?
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    Keep your religion out of other people's marriages.

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    Re: How long till Same Sex Marriage is nationally legal in the US?

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    As a response to someone mentioning that legal marriages are legal regardless of who performs the ceremony. My marriage is legal, despite not being performed by a "traditional" officiant or one paid by the state. It is also called a "marriage".

    I guess my point would be if you aren't authorized by the state to perform marriages, and you perform 'marriages' that aren't legitimized by the state, there is no recognized marriage by the state. Like, for instance, if you were to gay marry a couple in the state of California...

    Again, this has, IMO, nothing to do with 'proving' the validity or invalidity of SSM. Why is it in this thread?
    Last edited by cabse5; 06-15-13 at 12:24 PM.

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    Re: How long till Same Sex Marriage is nationally legal in the US?

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    No. Marriage has nothing to do with religion, not when it is the state recognition of marriage. Marriage is recognition as two people as each other's legal spouse, which is a legally recognized relationship, nothing more. Nothing religious in that.
    Why do you need to qualify SSM as civil marriage, or state sponsored marriage?
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    Re: How long till Same Sex Marriage is nationally legal in the US?

    Well hopefully by Monday!! Praying for it.
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    Re: How long till Same Sex Marriage is nationally legal in the US?

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    Well hopefully by Monday!! Praying for it.
    Why marriage??

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    Re: How long till Same Sex Marriage is nationally legal in the US?

    Quote Originally Posted by cabse5 View Post
    Why do you need to qualify SSM as civil marriage, or state sponsored marriage?
    Marriage is a civil contract and a personal agreement. That is what it is. The civil contract comes with certain benefits/rights/responsibilities that are at least available to everyone involved in a licensed marriage. Personal marriage is whatever a person wants their marriage to be, and might not even include the civil contract. By recognizing that there are different parts of marriage, it is easier for some to also recognize that their religious belief of marriage is not what should be the civil definition of marriage.
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    Keep your religion out of other people's marriages.

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    Re: How long till Same Sex Marriage is nationally legal in the US?

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    Marriage is a civil contract and a personal agreement. That is what it is. The civil contract comes with certain benefits/rights/responsibilities that are at least available to everyone involved in a licensed marriage. Personal marriage is whatever a person wants their marriage to be, and might not even include the civil contract. By recognizing that there are different parts of marriage, it is easier for some to also recognize that their religious belief of marriage is not what should be the civil definition of marriage.
    What was marriage before the state got hold of it?

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    Re: How long till Same Sex Marriage is nationally legal in the US?

    Quote Originally Posted by wolfie View Post
    Why marriage??
    Why does anybody want marriage?

    edit: no, that's not a rhetorical question.

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    Re: How long till Same Sex Marriage is nationally legal in the US?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    Why does anybody want marriage?

    edit: no, that's not a rhetorical question.
    What you mean is: why does anybody want all the rights and responsibilties of marriage?

    I guess If one also wants the word marriage, they want to be considered the same as everyone else.
    If so, like I've posted previously, there's nothing in the Constitution about forcing everyone to be considered the same.
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