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    Re: How long till Same Sex Marriage is nationally legal in the US?

    Quote Originally Posted by cabse5 View Post
    1.)IMO, my analogies show similar 'systems of inexactness' like gay marriage - of failures to adhere to the 14th amendment.
    2.) Why is gay marriage special when compared to these other inexact institutions I used in analogies?
    3.)Why do my analogies fail?

    4.)I could use roguenuke's logic and place a lock on the marriage door and refuse marriage to everyone civilly.
    5.) I could point out, as I've done many times on this thread, that gays get all the rights and responsibiltites of marriage with unions.

    6.)That only leaves us with the philosophy of ideological judges who think marriage should be a right for all.
    7.)Do any of you gay marriage advocates know why the first judge made that decree and set the precedent?
    1.) yes in your OPINION im sure they do in reality they are not parallels.
    2.) its not special because your are comparing apples and oranges.
    3.) see answer 1 and 2
    4.) your opinion of what you think he does
    5.) factually false
    6.)your opinion
    7.) please share your OPINION on why you think he did

    its an equality, equal rights, unequal/unfair discrimination issue

    none of your analogies meet this criteria.
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    Re: How long till Same Sex Marriage is nationally legal in the US?

    Quote Originally Posted by cabse5 View Post
    As far as DOMA is concerned, the federal gov't recognizes gay marriage in those states that recognize gay marriage and doesn't recognize gay marriage in those states that don't reconize gay marriage. So, you see, the state is the driver for gay marriage rights not the gov't.

    If Alaska gives a stipend to every member of its state from gas profits, why shouldn't every citizen of every state expect a stipend from their respective states? Roguenuke?
    No they don't, not with DOMA in place. You really need to go read up on some information about this subject because you don't seem to know a lot. DOMA says that the federal government will not recognize same sex marriages at all (although there is an exception that no one talks about because the federal government doesn't want to provide another front for DOMA to be attacked, and that is couples who were married as a man and a woman and one of them got a legal sex change, which if legal in the state they live in, the federal government recognizes as legal to them, so they recognize legal same sex marriages in that case).

    Not all state laws must apply equally to those who are not citizens of certain states. This is why people living in different states, pay different taxes. That isn't how laws and equality work.
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    Re: How long till Same Sex Marriage is nationally legal in the US?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    Actually it would be whatever the charge was when he was arrested. Somehow I just can't picture this scene happening: "Sir, you are under arrest for homophobia."
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    Re: How long till Same Sex Marriage is nationally legal in the US?

    No.

    Being fired for inappropriate behavior on the job is not the same as being arrested.

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    Re: How long till Same Sex Marriage is nationally legal in the US?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    No.

    Being fired for inappropriate behavior on the job is not the same as being arrested.
    Apparently you can..

    Anti-gay violence in Tblisi, Georgia: two priests arrested for their role in the affray

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    Re: How long till Same Sex Marriage is nationally legal in the US?

    No.

    Being arrested for violent behavior is not the same as being arrested for being homophobic.

    We already covered this, actually. Like when you confused that one guy being arrested for assault for being arrested for being homophobic.

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    Re: How long till Same Sex Marriage is nationally legal in the US?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    No.

    Being arrested for violent behavior is not the same as being arrested for being homophobic.

    We already covered this, actually. Like when you confused that one guy being arrested for assault for being arrested for being homophobic.
    But they were protesting against gay rights...violent or not..

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    Re: How long till Same Sex Marriage is nationally legal in the US?

    They were arrested for being violent or causing violence, not for simply being against homosexuality. In fact, in Georgia, those priests were beating anyone who they suspected was either gay or planning on marching in a scheduled gay rights parade with stinging nettles. Don't pretend that they were simply arrested for speaking out against gay people or even the parade because that is not the whole truth.

    Plus, all the examples you have given have been from other countries.
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    Keep your religion out of other people's marriages.

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    Re: How long till Same Sex Marriage is nationally legal in the US?

    Quote Originally Posted by wolfie View Post
    But they were protesting against gay rights...violent or not..
    Which would have been fine....until they were violent.

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    Re: How long till Same Sex Marriage is nationally legal in the US?

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    They were arrested for being violent or causing violence, not for simply being against homosexuality. In fact, in Georgia, those priests were beating anyone who they suspected was either gay or planning on marching in a scheduled gay rights parade with stinging nettles. Don't pretend that they were simply arrested for speaking out against gay people or even the parade because that is not the whole truth.

    Plus, all the examples you have given have been from other countries.
    The Interior Ministry said yesterday that one priest at the Holy Trinity Cathedral, Antimoz Bichinashvili, and another at the Ioane-Tornike Eristavi Monastery, Iotam Basilaia, have been charged with threatening the use of force to hinder the right to demonstrate or assemble...

    So they didn't use violence then?? Just words...

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