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    Re: How long till Same Sex Marriage is nationally legal in the US?

    Quote Originally Posted by davidtaylorjr View Post
    "If a man lies with a male as he lies with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination." (Leviticus 20:13).

    "You shall not lie with a male as with a woman. It is an abomination. Nor shall you mate with any animal, to defile yourself with it. Nor shall any woman stand before an animal to mate with it. It is perversion. ‘Do not defile yourselves with any of these things; for by all these the nations are defiled, which I am casting out before you." (Leviticus 18:22-24).

    "For this reason God gave them up to vile passions. For even their women exchanged the natural use for what is against nature. Likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust for one another, men with men committing what is shameful, and receiving in themselves the penalty of their error which was due." (Romans 1:26-27).

    Jude testifies about God's fiery destruction of Sodom for "sexual immorality":

    "As Sodom and Gomorrah, and the cities around them in a similar manner to these, having given themselves over to sexual immorality and gone after strange flesh, are set forth as an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire." (Jude 7)

    Exactly what type of "sexual immorality" and "strange flesh" had the Sodomites "gone after"? It was homosexuality:

    "Now before they lay down, the men of the city, the men of Sodom, both old and young, all the people from every quarter, surrounded the house. And they called to Lot and said to him, “Where are the men who came to you tonight? Bring them out to us so that we can have sex with them." (Genesis 19:4-5)
    I am not arguing what the BIBLE said.
    Second or third hand hear say is not evidence.
    You can use the canard that was "inspired" by the God,but ultimately that's just your and the people who choose to believe it opinion.The people who wrote all that are long dead,so we can't exactly question them as to their motivations,now can we.
    All you have shown me is that someone wrote that.

    If you get to hold up a book as evidence,so do I.

    From the Tao Te Ching:
    2

    When people see some things as beautiful,
    other things become ugly.
    When people see some things as good,
    other things become bad.

    Being and non-being create each other.
    Difficult and easy support each other.
    Long and short define each other.
    High and low depend on each other.
    Before and after follow each other.

    Therefore the Master
    acts without doing anything
    and teaches without saying anything.
    Things arise and she lets them come;
    things disappear and she lets them go.
    She has but doesn't possess,
    acts but doesn't expect.
    When her work is done, she forgets it.
    That is why it lasts forever.

    4

    The Tao is like a well:
    used but never used up.
    It is like the eternal void:
    filled with infinite possibilities.

    It is hidden but always present.
    I don't know who gave birth to it.
    It is older than God.

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    When the great Tao is forgotten,
    goodness and piety appear.
    When the body's intelligence declines,
    cleverness and knowledge step forth.
    When there is no peace in the family,
    filial piety begins.
    When the country falls into chaos,
    patriotism is born.

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    There was something formless and perfect
    before the universe was born.
    It is serene. Empty.
    Solitary. Unchanging.
    Infinite. Eternally present.
    It is the mother of the universe.
    For lack of a better name,
    I call it the Tao.

    It flows through all things,
    inside and outside, and returns
    to the origin of all things.

    The Tao is great.
    The universe is great.
    Earth is great.
    Man is great.
    These are the four great powers.

    Man follows the earth.
    Earth follows the universe.
    The universe follows the Tao.
    The Tao follows only itself.

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    Re: How long till Same Sex Marriage is nationally legal in the US?

    Quote Originally Posted by Quag View Post
    Again Hubris and without proof. You are full of sin today
    The problem isn't that he is full of sin today,the problem is that he is apparently (that's just my observation) unrepentant of the sins he is committing here on DP.Com

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    Re: How long till Same Sex Marriage is nationally legal in the US?

    Quote Originally Posted by Verthaine View Post
    I am not arguing what the BIBLE said.
    Second or third hand hear say is not evidence.
    You can use the canard that was "inspired" by the God,but ultimately that's just your and the people who choose to believe it opinion.The people who wrote all that are long dead,so we can't exactly question them as to their motivations,now can we.
    All you have shown me is that someone wrote that.

    If you get to hold up a book as evidence,so do I.

    From the Tao Te Ching:
    2

    When people see some things as beautiful,
    other things become ugly.
    When people see some things as good,
    other things become bad.

    Being and non-being create each other.
    Difficult and easy support each other.
    Long and short define each other.
    High and low depend on each other.
    Before and after follow each other.

    Therefore the Master
    acts without doing anything
    and teaches without saying anything.
    Things arise and she lets them come;
    things disappear and she lets them go.
    She has but doesn't possess,
    acts but doesn't expect.
    When her work is done, she forgets it.
    That is why it lasts forever.

    4

    The Tao is like a well:
    used but never used up.
    It is like the eternal void:
    filled with infinite possibilities.

    It is hidden but always present.
    I don't know who gave birth to it.
    It is older than God.

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    When the great Tao is forgotten,
    goodness and piety appear.
    When the body's intelligence declines,
    cleverness and knowledge step forth.
    When there is no peace in the family,
    filial piety begins.
    When the country falls into chaos,
    patriotism is born.

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    There was something formless and perfect
    before the universe was born.
    It is serene. Empty.
    Solitary. Unchanging.
    Infinite. Eternally present.
    It is the mother of the universe.
    For lack of a better name,
    I call it the Tao.

    It flows through all things,
    inside and outside, and returns
    to the origin of all things.

    The Tao is great.
    The universe is great.
    Earth is great.
    Man is great.
    These are the four great powers.

    Man follows the earth.
    Earth follows the universe.
    The universe follows the Tao.
    The Tao follows only itself.
    Then I guess we will see who is right on judgement day.
    Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We didn't pass it to our children in the bloodstream. It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same.

    Ronald Reagan

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    Re: How long till Same Sex Marriage is nationally legal in the US?

    Quote Originally Posted by davidtaylorjr View Post
    Christianity doesn't believe that wine turns into blood.
    Don't you love how Protestants like to gloss over that Catholicism was the only major form of Christianity for a thousand years? And for some reason American Protestants, as opposed to a lot of others, like to pretend that Catholicism is some other religion, as opposed to the original flavor of theirs.

    Well, DTJ, I don't personally know what kind of weird things you think are true and I don't feel like playing a guessing game. Why don't you offer something from your religion that I, as someone who does not share it with you, will dispute and then you can show me how it's true? We can save ourselves a lot of time that way, and you even get to pick what we'll talk about.
    Liberté. Égalité. Fraternité.

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    Re: How long till Same Sex Marriage is nationally legal in the US?

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    Don't you love how Protestants like to gloss over that Catholicism was the only major form of Christianity for a thousand years? And for some reason American Protestants, as opposed to a lot of others, like to pretend that Catholicism is some other religion, as opposed to the original flavor of theirs.

    Well, DTJ, I don't personally know what kind of weird things you think are true and I don't feel like playing a guessing game. Why don't you offer something from your religion that I, as someone who does not share it with you, will dispute and then you can show me how it's true? We can save ourselves a lot of time that way, and you even get to pick what we'll talk about.
    I believe that God created the Universe, man sinned, man is in need of a Savior, God sent Christ, his son, to earth to die for our sin if we accept Him.
    Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We didn't pass it to our children in the bloodstream. It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same.

    Ronald Reagan

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    Re: How long till Same Sex Marriage is nationally legal in the US?

    Quote Originally Posted by davidtaylorjr View Post
    Christianity doesn't believe that wine turns into blood.
    Then why take communion?

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    Re: How long till Same Sex Marriage is nationally legal in the US?

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    Then why take communion?
    It is a symbol of what Christ did for us. A reminder of the ultimate passover.
    Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We didn't pass it to our children in the bloodstream. It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same.

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    Re: How long till Same Sex Marriage is nationally legal in the US?

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    Then why take communion?
    Afterall, he said "Do this to remember me."
    Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We didn't pass it to our children in the bloodstream. It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same.

    Ronald Reagan

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    Re: How long till Same Sex Marriage is nationally legal in the US?

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    Then why take communion?
    Does that work if you're not Christian? I mean, do the people who are taking communion and think that the wine turns into blood claim that it will do so regardless of whether you believe it will or not? Because it seems really silly of me not to try it myself and test it if they do.

    Anyway, none of this religious digression really has anything to do with the OP. Making laws in this country based on nothing but religious belief is totally unconstitutional.
    Liberté. Égalité. Fraternité.

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    Re: How long till Same Sex Marriage is nationally legal in the US?

    Quote Originally Posted by davidtaylorjr View Post
    Then I guess we will see who is right on judgement day.
    That is such a cop out answer.
    In oriental cultures,what you just did is refered to as "saving face".
    It is an aspect of vanity.

    Please provide evidence that there will in fact be a "Judgement Day".

    In oriental

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