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    Re: How long till Same Sex Marriage is nationally legal in the US?

    Quote Originally Posted by cabse5 View Post
    Ah, the problem is: the definition of marriage will be forever changed because of politics.
    It's politics because gays (and judges) want to bestow the rights and responsibitlities of marriage to everyone, but not marriage.. How do I know this to be true? All the badmouthing you guys give marriage. How so many end up in divorce, how many kids are affected by bad marriages, etc.

    Finally, since when has anything Canada done ever been a shining example to the rest of the world?
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    Re: How long till Same Sex Marriage is nationally legal in the US?

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    obviously he has no clue what <bigoted> means lol
    So, what does it mean, J?

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    Re: How long till Same Sex Marriage is nationally legal in the US?

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    I have a gay friend (shocking huh? ) and he so happens to be a minister at one of the biggest gay churches in the country, they do gay weddings. So the others poster comment about "unbelievers" is nothing more than hogwash.
    I know of a man who is Presbyterian. The national Presbyterian council decreed that gay marriages would be performed in Presbyerian churches.

    Now the man belongs to a new Presbyterian synod. A synod that doesn't perform gay marriages in their Presbyterian churches.
    A breakoff of the Presbyterian Church has specifically occured because of gay marriages.

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    Re: How long till Same Sex Marriage is nationally legal in the US?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dooble View Post
    Rather, keep marriage as it is and give civil unions to the unbelievers: same rights, same privileges, and zero offense to the sanctity of marriage.
    And yet you don't seem upset by the offense given to us by excluding us. Only your religious offense is worth catering to. I hope you can see the problem there.
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    Re: How long till Same Sex Marriage is nationally legal in the US?

    Quote Originally Posted by cabse5 View Post
    Ah, the problem is: the definition of marriage will be forever changed because of politics

    It's politics because gays (and judges) want to bestow the rights and responsibilties of marriage to everyone, (that's socialism, by the way) but not marriage.. How do I know gays want the rights of, but not marriage? All the badmouthing you guys give marriage. How so many end up in divorce, how many kids are affected by bad marriages, etc.

    Finally, since when has anything Canada done ever been a shining example to the rest of the world?
    I don't bad mouth marriage. Quite the opposite. I do bad mouth those in our society who give it away for a television show, but otherwise, no. Gay marriage is the moral thing to do as well as the practical thing to do. It's rather sad that many social conservatives cannot see that they are refusing to uphold the goodness of marriage by denying more two-parent households. If you want to encourage a stronger family unit (quite the goal of conservatives and neoconservatives of the past many decades): promote gay marriage.
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    Re: How long till Same Sex Marriage is nationally legal in the US?

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    fact 1: seperate but equal is not separate
    fact 2: equal rights for gays has ZERO effect to the sanctity of marriage
    Why do you keep harping on this incorrect notion of separate but equal institutions is unconstitutional when I've already shown a multitude of separate but equal institutions ALLOWED by law? I can name at least 50 off the top of my head.

    Equal rights for gays can be achieved without gay marriage.
    Last edited by cabse5; 05-24-13 at 03:15 PM.

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    Re: How long till Same Sex Marriage is nationally legal in the US?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dooble View Post
    Rather, keep marriage as it is and give civil unions to the unbelievers: same rights, same privileges, and zero offense to the sanctity of marriage.
    Why should the state and its people be crippled by the religious institutions? If anything, it is the state that should be benevolently using the religious.

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    Re: How long till Same Sex Marriage is nationally legal in the US?

    Quote Originally Posted by Einzige View Post
    It's fascinating to watch worms squirm when the rain falls upon them.
    Explain. Ok, I'll explain. I'm for equal rights, but not special rights like gay marriage.
    Last edited by cabse5; 05-24-13 at 03:14 PM.

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    Re: How long till Same Sex Marriage is nationally legal in the US?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    I don't bad mouth marriage. Quite the opposite. I do bad mouth those in our society who give it away for a television show, but otherwise, no. Gay marriage is the moral thing to do as well as the practical thing to do. It's rather sad that many social conservatives cannot see that they are refusing to uphold the goodness of marriage by denying more two-parent households. If you want to encourage a stronger family unit (quite the goal of conservatives and neoconservatives of the past many decades): promote gay marriage.
    Do you want to go around more about the Emancipation Proclamation? Do you still believe that in the north there weren't some abolitionists? That was, by the way, exactly what I'd previously said when I mentioned the majority of the north was abolitionist.
    Not sure why you argued, there.

    BTW, Lee launched his offensive against Pennsylvania (Gettysburg) partly to show England the north didn't have any fighting prowess and for England to reconsider its neutrality in the Civil War. Again, politics.
    Last edited by cabse5; 05-24-13 at 03:10 PM.

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    Re: How long till Same Sex Marriage is nationally legal in the US?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    I don't bad mouth marriage. Quite the opposite. I do bad mouth those in our society who give it away for a television show, but otherwise, no. Gay marriage is the moral thing to do as well as the practical thing to do. It's rather sad that many social conservatives cannot see that they are refusing to uphold the goodness of marriage by denying more two-parent households. If you want to encourage a stronger family unit (quite the goal of conservatives and neoconservatives of the past many decades): promote gay marriage.
    I'm sure you can vouch for everyone else.

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