View Poll Results: How long till Same Sex Marriage is nationally legal in the US?

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    Re: How long till Same Sex Marriage is nationally legal in the US?

    I put down 10-15, but only for the last few religiously-stupid states. The majority will pass gay marriage laws in the next 5 years.
    There is nothing demonstrably true that religion can provide the world that cannot be achieved more rationally through entirely secular means.

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    Re: How long till Same Sex Marriage is nationally legal in the US?

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    Reason?????
    Because his imaginary friend says so.
    There is nothing demonstrably true that religion can provide the world that cannot be achieved more rationally through entirely secular means.

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    Re: How long till Same Sex Marriage is nationally legal in the US?

    I actually want the federal, state, and local to get out of the marriage license business so I'll say "never".

    To explain, if a religion agrees with SSM let them perform the ceremony and it should be recognized legally and automatically without question, if a religion does not agree with it they shouldn't be so compelled. And here is the kicker, justice of the peace marriage must be equal opportunity and fully recognized, secular bodies have no right to distinguish under equal protections of the U.S. constitution. Easy enough, done.
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    Re: How long till Same Sex Marriage is nationally legal in the US?

    Quote Originally Posted by LaMidRighter View Post
    I actually want the federal, state, and local to get out of the marriage license business so I'll say "never".

    To explain, if a religion agrees with SSM let them perform the ceremony and it should be recognized legally and automatically without question, if a religion does not agree with it they shouldn't be so compelled. And here is the kicker, justice of the peace marriage must be equal opportunity and fully recognized, secular bodies have no right to distinguish under equal protections of the U.S. constitution. Easy enough, done.
    I can think of no rational reason why someone in favor of gay marriage might possibly agree to this. Besides, government licenses and religious ceremonies are already separate.

    The government removing itself from marriage is in any case a fantasy, and not worthy of consideration.
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    Re: How long till Same Sex Marriage is nationally legal in the US?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    I can think of no rational reason why someone in favor of gay marriage might possibly agree to this. Besides, government licenses and religious ceremonies are already separate.
    Legal recognition for benefits is the issue, that should be removed. IOW if a ceremony is performed the marriage should automatically be authorized for all benefits contained therein. For instance if I marry a fiance in the Catholic church she has a right to my property upon death or divorce, all benefits I get through a company like insurance are legally mandated for her to be covered under, etc. what I was saying is that the government does not get to pick and choose, any marriage should have equal legal protections and a justice of the peace(civil ceremony) would have to be performed under equal protections law. What I am arguing is that no level of government may pick and choose what to recognize as "legal", I'm actually using the first amendment(religious protection) and fourteenth(binds all rights to all levels of government) to state that government shall not have authority to decide which marriages(barring child, etc.) they may recognize.
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    Re: How long till Same Sex Marriage is nationally legal in the US?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    The government removing itself from marriage is in any case a fantasy, and not worthy of consideration.
    Not at all. Private organizations can handle all parts of marriage.

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    Re: How long till Same Sex Marriage is nationally legal in the US?

    Quote Originally Posted by LaMidRighter View Post
    I actually want the federal, state, and local to get out of the marriage license business so I'll say "never".

    To explain, if a religion agrees with SSM let them perform the ceremony and it should be recognized legally and automatically without question, if a religion does not agree with it they shouldn't be so compelled. And here is the kicker, justice of the peace marriage must be equal opportunity and fully recognized, secular bodies have no right to distinguish under equal protections of the U.S. constitution. Easy enough, done.
    Not sure i understand what you are say. This is already the case, legal marriage has nothing to do with religion what so ever its a non-factor. And you say you want fed, state and local out of it (which will never happen ever) but u mention justice of the peace, im confused what you want.

    But either way Government is never getting out of marriage thats just unrealistic and the poll is about what you THINK will happen not what you want. But i am still curious about what you want since you brought it up.
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    Re: How long till Same Sex Marriage is nationally legal in the US?

    It depends entirely on how fashionable perversion becomes.

    A better question would be, "how long until normal people revolt against sanctified debauchery?"
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    Re: How long till Same Sex Marriage is nationally legal in the US?

    Quote Originally Posted by Oftencold View Post
    1.)It depends entirely on how fashionable perversion becomes.

    2.)A better question would be, "how long until normal people revolt against sanctified debauchery?"
    1.) I agree in america it is very perverted to be against equality and i cant believe it was fashionable this long but thats changing as the majority realize this mistake now and want to fix it.
    2.) we are doing it now, the normal people (the majority therefore normal) are revolting against inequality and bigots all over the nation.

    we are living in the reality you describe and are asking about
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    Re: How long till Same Sex Marriage is nationally legal in the US?

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    1.) I agree in america it is very perverted to be against equality and i cant believe it was fashionable this long but thats changing as the majority realize this mistake now and want to fix it.
    2.) we are doing it now, the normal people (the majority therefore normal) are revolting against inequality and bigots all over the nation.

    we are living in the reality you describe and are asking about
    Once again, homosexuals have equal rights, they lack equal inclination. Line up 10 unmarried adult men, 5 sexually normal men and 5 homosexuals. They are free to marry precisely the same people. Thus they have equal rights.
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